> So I realize I'm a little late to the party, but I just read through this
> feed. I feel compelled to say if you're going to start a decentralized P2P
> black market selling drugs, guns, and things I probably can't even imagine
> rule number one should be: Thou shalt not capitulate.
>
> Besides the inherent anarchist ideals it really doesn't matter what you
> name it. If you're selling drugs and guns there is no amount of positive
> spin or marketing trickery you can do to make it "acceptable" for the
> general public. The black market has existed long before the internet and
> will always exist outside of mainstream society. I mean really, what are
> you guys hoping for? Corporate sponsorship?
>
> -Robert
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> well also there's this attitude that Bitcoin is a company like Twitter
>> or Facebook, and it's a payments innovation for buying food or drink in
>> place of credit cards.
>>
>> Truth is that Bitcoin is a core technology akin to wheel or printing
>> press, and cannot be stopped. The tech goes way beyond simple A->B
>> payments, and instead reaches far deeper into how humans organise and
>> assemble together by giving us a new wide-ranging toolkit that we can
>> apply for creating new forms of trade and business online. I'm talking
>> about the many crypto features inside and spurned by Bitcoin that
>> haven't yet been exploited.
>>
>> Bitcoin does not need to win favour from anybody. But what is important
>> is to protect the consensus inside Bitcoin which is responsible for
>> maintaining it's integrity and principles as a technology. That
>> consensus is responsible for how Bitcoin evolves. I believe Bitcoin will
>> be dominant, and the lock-in so big that whatever Bitcoin becomes, we
>> will be stuck with. Therefore it's vital that we maintain it as a free
>> market technology open and equal for all.
>>
>> A Bitcoin surrounded by a proprietary ecosystem owned by industry who
>> spends their resources to create software that imposes their limits on
>> us, while allowing (or gaining) them participation in a "legit" market
>> is not a free Bitcoin, and one which oppresses its users. There are many
>> very subtle decisions that we take now that have long term effects on
>> how Bitcoin evolves. And it's the sum of these 1000 small decisions that
>> really determines the outcome of Bitcoin. There's no threat from the
>> system. We are the system.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAYT2gaAqw
>>
>> On 25/04/14 14:15, Robert Williamson wrote:
>> > Most people can't code.
>> >
>> >
>> > I know that and I know it sounds elitist to say "just code your own",
>> > perhaps it's just my perception that people in the community are less
>> > willing to talk about the politics and technology and are only concerned
>> > about "making Bitcoin look good" so they can make a good return.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 25 April 2014 19:05, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
>> > <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Most people can't code. And in general have no idea how to make
>> > things happen. So they're just appealing to authority for change,
>> > because that's what they've been raised to do and they don't know
>> > any better.
>> >
>> > The barriers to freedom don't live in a gun, an army, or a state. No
>> > piece of technology can unleash us. I've said it before - there is
>> > only one freedom, freedom of the mind. Until that is taken as
>> > gospel, people will keep building chains and prisons out of the
>> > tools provided for liberation.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???
>> > <mailto:bobalot@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's a little amusing it ended up with as many upvotes as it
>> did.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It shows the unfortunate state of the /r/bitcoin community though,
>> >> it's the second most upvoted post this week about fear of a colour
>> >> or name.
>> >>
>> >> No one has posted their own decentralised market showing where
>> >> they've made improvements and called it whatever they want.
>> >>
>> >> What else are we going to call a product that can most likely be
>> >> used for "illicit purposes"? "Silk Road" sounds like a nice name
>> >> for a website pre-2011, reminding people of the cultural trade
>> route.
>> >>
>> >> Even if DarkMarket was called "Lovely Butterfly Road" it would
>> >> probably eventually be tainted bad by the media.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 25 April 2014 18:35, Adam B. Levine <adam@???
>> >> <mailto:adam@letstalkbitcoin.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Your project, your call (until somebody forks it!) but words
>> >> do matter.
>> >>
>> >> It's a little amusing it ended up with as many upvotes as it
>> did.
>> >>
>> >> Adam B. Levine
>> >> Editor-in-Chief
>> >> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>> >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23vo5s/petition_to_change_the_name_of_dark_market_to/
>> >>
>> >> comments I wrote for the reddit crowd:
>> >>
>> >> People need to stop being afraid and reclaim these words
>> >> of power used
>> >> to control us. The Dark name evokes great imagery and
>> >> sounds cool. It's
>> >> like when they used to call us pirates to shame us and the
>> >> pirate party
>> >> stood up and said "yeah! we are pirates!". There were many
>> >> internet
>> >> freedom parties before and they got nowhere. Our team is
>> >> not here to fit
>> >> in nicely with the status quo- we are here to challenge it.
>> >>
>> >> -------
>> >>
>> >> Anybody who disagrees with my outlook is free to pick up a
>> >> compiler. If
>> >> you're bothered enough then create the change you want to
>> >> see. Don't try
>> >> to make dictates to opensource coders through public peer
>> >> pressure
>> >> campaigns. This thread is lazy activism at its finest.
>> >> It's hilarious
>> >> that people give so much energy to this over the actual
>> >> thread about the
>> >> project itself.
>> >>
>> >> If you sit on your arse complaining about names on Reddit,
>> >> then your
>> >> insights are worthless. Get to work!
>> >>
>> >> Stay true to yourself.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 25/04/14 08:40, n wrote:
>> >> > OMG this made my day ! Amir thank you, keep it up
>> >> > On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Chris Pacia wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We need to give Amir a lesson in firearm safety :p
>> >> >>
>> >> >> upvote this vid plz for visibility,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23vo5s/petition_to_change_the_name_of_dark_market_to/ch1e6qb
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