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well also there's this attitude that Bitcoin is a company like Twitter
or Facebook, and it's a payments innovation for buying food or drink in
place of credit cards.

Truth is that Bitcoin is a core technology akin to wheel or printing
press, and cannot be stopped. The tech goes way beyond simple A->B
payments, and instead reaches far deeper into how humans organise and
assemble together by giving us a new wide-ranging toolkit that we can
apply for creating new forms of trade and business online. I'm talking
about the many crypto features inside and spurned by Bitcoin that
haven't yet been exploited.

Bitcoin does not need to win favour from anybody. But what is important
is to protect the consensus inside Bitcoin which is responsible for
maintaining it's integrity and principles as a technology. That
consensus is responsible for how Bitcoin evolves. I believe Bitcoin will
be dominant, and the lock-in so big that whatever Bitcoin becomes, we
will be stuck with. Therefore it's vital that we maintain it as a free
market technology open and equal for all.

A Bitcoin surrounded by a proprietary ecosystem owned by industry who
spends their resources to create software that imposes their limits on
us, while allowing (or gaining) them participation in a "legit" market
is not a free Bitcoin, and one which oppresses its users. There are many
very subtle decisions that we take now that have long term effects on
how Bitcoin evolves. And it's the sum of these 1000 small decisions that
really determines the outcome of Bitcoin. There's no threat from the
system. We are the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAYT2gaAqw

On 25/04/14 14:15, Robert Williamson wrote:
>     Most people can't code.

>
>
> I know that and I know it sounds elitist to say "just code your own",
> perhaps it's just my perception that people in the community are less
> willing to talk about the politics and technology and are only concerned
> about "making Bitcoin look good" so they can make a good return.
>
>
>
> On 25 April 2014 19:05, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
> <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Most people can't code. And in general have no idea how to make
>     things happen. So they're just appealing to authority for change,
>     because that's what they've been raised to do and they don't know
>     any better.

>
>     The barriers to freedom don't live in a gun, an army, or a state. No
>     piece of technology can unleash us. I've said it before - there is
>     only one freedom, freedom of the mind. Until that is taken as
>     gospel, people will keep building chains and prisons out of the
>     tools provided for liberation.

>
>
>
>     On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???
>     <mailto:bobalot@gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>>         It's a little amusing it ended up with as many upvotes as it did.

>>
>>
>>
>>     It shows the unfortunate state of the /r/bitcoin community though,
>>     it's the second most upvoted post this week about fear of a colour
>>     or name.

>>
>>     No one has posted their own decentralised market showing where
>>     they've made improvements and called it whatever they want. 

>>
>>     What else are we going to call a product that can most likely be
>>     used for "illicit purposes"? "Silk Road" sounds like a nice name
>>     for a website pre-2011, reminding people of the cultural trade route. 

>>
>>     Even if DarkMarket was called "Lovely Butterfly Road" it would
>>     probably eventually be tainted bad by the media.

>>
>>
>>
>>     On 25 April 2014 18:35, Adam B. Levine <adam@???
>>     <mailto:adam@letstalkbitcoin.com>> wrote:

>>
>>         Your project, your call (until somebody forks it!) but words
>>         do matter.

>>
>>         It's a little amusing it ended up with as many upvotes as it did.

>>
>>         Adam B. Levine
>>         Editor-in-Chief
>>         Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>

>>
>>
>>         On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>>         <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:

>>
>>             http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23vo5s/petition_to_change_the_name_of_dark_market_to/

>>
>>             comments I wrote for the reddit crowd:

>>
>>             People need to stop being afraid and reclaim these words
>>             of power used
>>             to control us. The Dark name evokes great imagery and
>>             sounds cool. It's
>>             like when they used to call us pirates to shame us and the
>>             pirate party
>>             stood up and said "yeah! we are pirates!". There were many
>>             internet
>>             freedom parties before and they got nowhere. Our team is
>>             not here to fit
>>             in nicely with the status quo- we are here to challenge it.

>>
>>             -------

>>
>>             Anybody who disagrees with my outlook is free to pick up a
>>             compiler. If
>>             you're bothered enough then create the change you want to
>>             see. Don't try
>>             to make dictates to opensource coders through public peer
>>             pressure
>>             campaigns. This thread is lazy activism at its finest.
>>             It's hilarious
>>             that people give so much energy to this over the actual
>>             thread about the
>>             project itself.

>>
>>             If you sit on your arse complaining about names on Reddit,
>>             then your
>>             insights are worthless. Get to work!

>>
>>             Stay true to yourself.

>>
>>
>>             On 25/04/14 08:40, n wrote:
>>             > OMG this made my day ! Amir thank you, keep it up
>>             > On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Chris Pacia wrote:
>>             >>
>>             >> We need to give Amir a lesson in firearm safety :p

>>             >>
>>             >> upvote this vid plz for visibility,

>>             >>

>>             >>
>>             http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23vo5s/petition_to_change_the_name_of_dark_market_to/ch1e6qb

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