https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/454246967124963328


On 11/04/14 11:27, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
> This is interesting and it brings up a serious problem with
> systemd/dbus. Leaving the code quality entirely aside, RedHat is
> displaying a level of organizational enthusiasm in systemd which is
> irrational unless they have some very compelling business case for
> making you and I use it.
>
> Whatever they have up their sleeve has to be more complex than the
> obvious case of bundling a browser with an OS to break web
> compatibility but this smells like the same kind of
> embrace-extend-extinguish coup d'état attempt.
>
> Thanks, Caleb
>
>
> On 04/10/2014 09:00 AM, Jaromil wrote:
>> On April 9, 2014 11:23:44 PM CEST, epsylon <epsylon@???>
>> wrote:
>>> https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/
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i was at the talk by Paul at fosdem and muzt say i felt vry happy to
hear the community is becoming conscious of such dynamics, some of us
were considered paranoid when mentioning them in the past.
>>
>> the web of trust cant hold well when is so big. imho to preserve
>> the integrity of systems being developed is better to adopt an
>> artisanal approach with a few people (and tight knit with
>> upstream if its a distro), rather than let everything pass
>> through a gigantic apparatus of pseudo-democracy that opens to
>> such vulnerabilities as well favors mediocrity and lobbyst
>> approaches on the long term.
>>
>> one more reason to go for decentralization!
>>
>> the little reassurance we can have now here, for those using mutt
>> on debian/ubuntu: the maintainer of the package is one of our
>> crew at dyne and extra attention has been used for its
>> integrity.
>>
>> for cloud services we'll be going the docker.io way, i recommend
>> giving it a spin and share some repos and receipts maybe.
>>
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