This is interesting and it brings up a serious problem with systemd/dbus.
Leaving the code quality entirely aside, RedHat is displaying a level of
organizational enthusiasm in systemd which is irrational unless they have
some very compelling business case for making you and I use it.

Whatever they have up their sleeve has to be more complex than the obvious
case of bundling a browser with an OS to break web compatibility but this
smells like the same kind of embrace-extend-extinguish coup d'état attempt.

Thanks,
Caleb


On 04/10/2014 09:00 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> On April 9, 2014 11:23:44 PM CEST, epsylon <epsylon@???> wrote:
>> https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/
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> i was at the talk by Paul at fosdem and muzt say i felt vry happy to hear the community is becoming conscious of such dynamics, some of us were considered paranoid when mentioning them in the past.
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> the web of trust cant hold well when is so big. imho to preserve the integrity of systems being developed is better to adopt an artisanal approach with a few people (and tight knit with upstream if its a distro), rather than let everything pass through a gigantic apparatus of pseudo-democracy that opens to such vulnerabilities as well favors mediocrity and lobbyst approaches on the long term.
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> one more reason to go for decentralization!
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> the little reassurance we can have now here, for those using mutt on debian/ubuntu: the maintainer of the package is one of our crew at dyne and extra attention has been used for its integrity.
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> for cloud services we'll be going the docker.io way, i recommend giving it a spin and share some repos and receipts maybe.
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> ciao
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