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Auteur: Amir Taaki
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Aan: unsystem
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] Totalitarianism is simply the default state of the client/server model
that art is great!

On 25/03/14 16:53, ben wrote:
> If you need some proof that I have a steady hand:
> http://www.artflakes.com/en/s?search=ben+johansen
>
>
> 2014-03-25 16:49 GMT+01:00 Linards Berzins
> <linardsberzins@??? <mailto:linardsberzins@googlemail.com>>:
>
>     hi everyone, my name is Linards and i follow this feed and read
>     through some amazing ideas. 

>
>     ping me if you need HTML Emails to create and dont have time to do
>     it yourself, I'll do it.

>
>     Cheers 

>
>
>     On 25 March 2014 15:42, ben <colypse@???
>     <mailto:colypse@gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>         I can draw logos. I do it oldschool style, but I can make them
>         into bytes.. PM me on colypse@???
>         <mailto:colypse@gmail.com> to give me more info about logos
>          if needed.

>
>         Peace

>
>         Ben

>
>
>         2014-03-25 15:46 GMT+01:00 John Hebert <johnalexhebert@???
>         <mailto:johnalexhebert@gmail.com>>:

>
>             Jacob,

>
>             This list is indirectly related to bitcoin and crypto stuff.
>             Those are tools for implementing some of the goals of
>             unSYSTEM. The description of the mailing list is
>             "Revolutionaries on standby"
>             (https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/unsystem).
>             We are a community, first and foremost, committed to making
>             changes with revolutionary impact.

>
>             That being said, what this mailing list needs is more effort
>             to organize and make things happen instead of fluff opinion
>             posts. We need more doers instead of fluffers. We need more
>             members to give their time, effort and support to the goals
>             of unSYSTEM. I forget the open source developer who said
>             "There is no substitute for source code.", but it is
>             excellent advice and extends to documentation, logos,
>             planning, etc.

>
>             I say we _need_ more doers, but I also think we shouldn't
>             restrict anyone from posting. It takes little effort to scan
>             and delete a post from an Inbox. If someone is repeatedly
>             annoying, filter them. If enough mailing list members create
>             such filters, the poster will get the hint. Or, better yet,
>             the poster will _become_ a doer. If the poster is a good
>             writer and thinker, I recommend posting a blog link here
>             with a short description. Everyone would benefit from that.
>             The mailing list admin can resolve the worst cases of
>             mailing list abuse, though I hope that won't be necessary.

>
>             I'll hang out in irc.freenode.net:#darkwallet as huangpo99
>             and will also follow the projects in github to determine how
>             I can best use my skills to contribute.

>
>
>             On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jacob
>             <jacobusbogers@??? <mailto:jacobusbogers@gmail.com>>
>             wrote:

>
>                 teaching a man how to fish? wtf, even backward tribes in
>                 the amazon and stonage man, know how to fish, please
>                 again this is about bitcoin and crypto stuff, so can the
>                 mod just delete the post,
>                 I was here to do tech stuff, not to listen to peace core
>                 rants.

>
>
>                 On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle
>                 <cjd@??? <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>> wrote:

>
>                     I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is
>                     strictly about technology
>                     then it is probably not a place for me.
>                     I have some additional thoughts in response to
>                     comments here and on
>                     socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.

>
>                     There is a parallel thread on
>                     socialswarm-discussion@???
>                     <mailto:socialswarm-discussion@ml.foebud.org> so if
>                     this thread is offensive then we can move.

>
>                     ----

>
>                     A few thoughts:

>
>                     I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm
>                     now coming to the
>                     conclusion that it's not solving the real problem.
>                     Forgive me, I'm not in
>                     my best form.

>
>                     Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only
>                     exist but can garner
>                     the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.

>
>                     I value art, music, and literature and some will be
>                     far better than I can
>                     ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society
>                     decided that nomatter
>                     what a great musician or artist you may be, you will
>                     be compelled to attend
>                     school and learn to read because the threat to
>                     democracy of an illiterate
>                     populous was too grave to accept. In this world with
>                     a computer on every
>                     desk and in every pocket, everybody has an
>                     obligation to have a certain
>                     level of understanding of these things.

>
>                     I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to
>                     learn how to read either
>                     and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would
>                     simply invent a machine
>                     to make people not need to know how to read.
>                     Forgiveness is deserved.

>
>                     All of the concentration on usability is, as we
>                     would say in the US,
>                     barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to
>                     make open source
>                     projects more "usable" than facebook and their army
>                     of designers, we
>                     can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.

>
>                     The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model
>                     will never succeed
>                     here, every university CS class I've attended was
>                     teaching 5-10 year old
>                     CS *history*.

>
>
>                     tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach
>                     him how to fish and
>                     he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit
>                     in a boat and drink
>                     beer :)

>
>
>                     On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
>                     > I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has
>                     to do with bitcoin...
>                     >

>                     >
>                     > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer
>                     <mk@??? <mailto:mk@nucleo.io>> wrote:

>                     >
>                     >> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the
>                     written language of the day
>                     >> is code and in this sea of information, anyone
>                     who remains illiterate does
>                     >> so by choice. "

>                     >>
>                     >> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one
>                     of the philosophical
>                     >> grandfathers of the internet.

>                     >>

>                     >>
>                     >> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James
>                     DeLisle <cjd@??? <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>>:

>                     >>
>                     >>> I felt that I had to express something so I
>                     wrote it and gave it a
>                     >> domain.
>                     >>> http://thewebmustdie.com/

>                     >>>
>                     >>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.

>                     >>>
>                     >>> Caleb
>                     >>> _______________________________________________
>                     >>> unSYSTEM mailing list: http://unsystem.net

>                     >>>
>                     https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/unsystem

>                     >>

>                     >>
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>                     >>

>                     >

>                     >

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