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Autor: ben
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To: System undo crew
Betreff: Re: [unSYSTEM] Totalitarianism is simply the default state of the client/server model
I can draw logos. I do it oldschool style, but I can make them into bytes..
PM me on colypse@??? to give me more info about logos
if needed.

Peace

Ben


2014-03-25 15:46 GMT+01:00 John Hebert <johnalexhebert@???>:

> Jacob,
>
> This list is indirectly related to bitcoin and crypto stuff. Those are
> tools for implementing some of the goals of unSYSTEM. The description of
> the mailing list is "Revolutionaries on standby" (
> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/unsystem). We are
> a community, first and foremost, committed to making changes with
> revolutionary impact.
>
> That being said, what this mailing list needs is more effort to organize
> and make things happen instead of fluff opinion posts. We need more doers
> instead of fluffers. We need more members to give their time, effort and
> support to the goals of unSYSTEM. I forget the open source developer who
> said "There is no substitute for source code.", but it is excellent advice
> and extends to documentation, logos, planning, etc.
>
> I say we _need_ more doers, but I also think we shouldn't restrict anyone
> from posting. It takes little effort to scan and delete a post from an
> Inbox. If someone is repeatedly annoying, filter them. If enough mailing
> list members create such filters, the poster will get the hint. Or, better
> yet, the poster will _become_ a doer. If the poster is a good writer and
> thinker, I recommend posting a blog link here with a short description.
> Everyone would benefit from that. The mailing list admin can resolve the
> worst cases of mailing list abuse, though I hope that won't be necessary.
>
> I'll hang out in irc.freenode.net:#darkwallet as huangpo99 and will also
> follow the projects in github to determine how I can best use my skills to
> contribute.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>
>> teaching a man how to fish? wtf, even backward tribes in the amazon and
>> stonage man, know how to fish, please again this is about bitcoin and
>> crypto stuff, so can the mod just delete the post,
>> I was here to do tech stuff, not to listen to peace core rants.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is strictly about
>>> technology
>>> then it is probably not a place for me.
>>> I have some additional thoughts in response to comments here and on
>>> socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.
>>>
>>> There is a parallel thread on socialswarm-discussion@??? so if
>>> this thread is offensive then we can move.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> A few thoughts:
>>>
>>> I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm now coming to the
>>> conclusion that it's not solving the real problem. Forgive me, I'm not in
>>> my best form.
>>>
>>> Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only exist but can garner
>>> the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.
>>>
>>> I value art, music, and literature and some will be far better than I can
>>> ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society decided that
>>> nomatter
>>> what a great musician or artist you may be, you will be compelled to
>>> attend
>>> school and learn to read because the threat to democracy of an illiterate
>>> populous was too grave to accept. In this world with a computer on every
>>> desk and in every pocket, everybody has an obligation to have a certain
>>> level of understanding of these things.
>>>
>>> I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to learn how to read
>>> either
>>> and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would simply invent a
>>> machine
>>> to make people not need to know how to read. Forgiveness is deserved.
>>>
>>> All of the concentration on usability is, as we would say in the US,
>>> barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to make open source
>>> projects more "usable" than facebook and their army of designers, we
>>> can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.
>>>
>>> The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model will never succeed
>>> here, every university CS class I've attended was teaching 5-10 year old
>>> CS *history*.
>>>
>>>
>>> tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and
>>> he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit in a boat and drink
>>> beer :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
>>> > I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has to do with
>>> bitcoin...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the written language of
>>> the day
>>> >> is code and in this sea of information, anyone who remains illiterate
>>> does
>>> >> so by choice. "
>>> >>
>>> >> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one of the philosophical
>>> >> grandfathers of the internet.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I felt that I had to express something so I wrote it and gave it a
>>> >> domain.
>>> >>> http://thewebmustdie.com/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Caleb
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
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