Jacob,

This list is indirectly related to bitcoin and crypto stuff. Those are
tools for implementing some of the goals of unSYSTEM. The description of
the mailing list is "Revolutionaries on standby" (
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/unsystem). We are a
community, first and foremost, committed to making changes with
revolutionary impact.

That being said, what this mailing list needs is more effort to organize
and make things happen instead of fluff opinion posts. We need more doers
instead of fluffers. We need more members to give their time, effort and
support to the goals of unSYSTEM. I forget the open source developer who
said "There is no substitute for source code.", but it is excellent advice
and extends to documentation, logos, planning, etc.

I say we _need_ more doers, but I also think we shouldn't restrict anyone
from posting. It takes little effort to scan and delete a post from an
Inbox. If someone is repeatedly annoying, filter them. If enough mailing
list members create such filters, the poster will get the hint. Or, better
yet, the poster will _become_ a doer. If the poster is a good writer and
thinker, I recommend posting a blog link here with a short description.
Everyone would benefit from that. The mailing list admin can resolve the
worst cases of mailing list abuse, though I hope that won't be necessary.

I'll hang out in irc.freenode.net:#darkwallet as huangpo99 and will also
follow the projects in github to determine how I can best use my skills to
contribute.


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:

> teaching a man how to fish? wtf, even backward tribes in the amazon and
> stonage man, know how to fish, please again this is about bitcoin and
> crypto stuff, so can the mod just delete the post,
> I was here to do tech stuff, not to listen to peace core rants.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is strictly about technology
>> then it is probably not a place for me.
>> I have some additional thoughts in response to comments here and on
>> socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.
>>
>> There is a parallel thread on socialswarm-discussion@??? so if
>> this thread is offensive then we can move.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> A few thoughts:
>>
>> I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm now coming to the
>> conclusion that it's not solving the real problem. Forgive me, I'm not in
>> my best form.
>>
>> Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only exist but can garner
>> the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.
>>
>> I value art, music, and literature and some will be far better than I can
>> ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society decided that nomatter
>> what a great musician or artist you may be, you will be compelled to
>> attend
>> school and learn to read because the threat to democracy of an illiterate
>> populous was too grave to accept. In this world with a computer on every
>> desk and in every pocket, everybody has an obligation to have a certain
>> level of understanding of these things.
>>
>> I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to learn how to read either
>> and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would simply invent a machine
>> to make people not need to know how to read. Forgiveness is deserved.
>>
>> All of the concentration on usability is, as we would say in the US,
>> barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to make open source
>> projects more "usable" than facebook and their army of designers, we
>> can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.
>>
>> The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model will never succeed
>> here, every university CS class I've attended was teaching 5-10 year old
>> CS *history*.
>>
>>
>> tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and
>> he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit in a boat and drink
>> beer :)
>>
>>
>> On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
>> > I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has to do with bitcoin...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the written language of the
>> day
>> >> is code and in this sea of information, anyone who remains illiterate
>> does
>> >> so by choice. "
>> >>
>> >> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one of the philosophical
>> >> grandfathers of the internet.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>:
>> >>
>> >>> I felt that I had to express something so I wrote it and gave it a
>> >> domain.
>> >>> http://thewebmustdie.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.
>> >>>
>> >>> Caleb
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