>     I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is strictly about
>     technology
>     then it is probably not a place for me.
>     I have some additional thoughts in response to comments here and on
>     socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.

>     There is a parallel thread on socialswarm-discussion@???
>     <mailto:socialswarm-discussion@ml.foebud.org> so if
>     this thread is offensive then we can move.

>     ----

>     A few thoughts:

>     I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm now coming to the
>     conclusion that it's not solving the real problem. Forgive me, I'm
>     not in
>     my best form.

>     Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only exist but can garner
>     the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.

>     I value art, music, and literature and some will be far better than
>     I can
>     ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society decided that
>     nomatter
>     what a great musician or artist you may be, you will be compelled to
>     attend
>     school and learn to read because the threat to democracy of an
>     illiterate
>     populous was too grave to accept. In this world with a computer on every
>     desk and in every pocket, everybody has an obligation to have a certain
>     level of understanding of these things.

>     I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to learn how to read
>     either
>     and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would simply invent a
>     machine
>     to make people not need to know how to read. Forgiveness is deserved.

>     All of the concentration on usability is, as we would say in the US,
>     barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to make open source
>     projects more "usable" than facebook and their army of designers, we
>     can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.

>     The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model will never succeed
>     here, every university CS class I've attended was teaching 5-10 year old
>     CS *history*.

>     tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and
>     he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit in a boat and drink
>     beer :)

>     On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
>     > I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has to do with
>     bitcoin...
>     >

>     >
>     > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???
>     <mailto:mk@nucleo.io>> wrote:

>     >
>     >> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the written language
>     of the day
>     >> is code and in this sea of information, anyone who remains
>     illiterate does
>     >> so by choice. "

>     >>
>     >> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one of the philosophical
>     >> grandfathers of the internet.

>     >>

>     >>
>     >> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???
>     <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>>:

>     >>
>     >>> I felt that I had to express something so I wrote it and gave it a
>     >> domain.
>     >>> http://thewebmustdie.com/

>     >>>
>     >>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.

>     >>>
>     >>> Caleb
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>     >>

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