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Emne: Re: [unSYSTEM] Totalitarianism is simply the default state of the client/server model
I thought it was actually an interesting read, and appropriate to the ML.

Caleb may be a quirky and emotional dude, but he is in it to change
the world and I think we should give him some slack as long as he
doesn't hog the soap box, which so far he isn't.

Good luck CJ, take a break if you need it and then your heart will
tell you what to do next.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM, A <aenemic@???> wrote:
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> - From the website
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> "In our thought and debate we aim to transcend particular ideologies
> and merit those most passionate and world-bending efforts."
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> #About unSYSTEM
> English (USA)
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> Revolutionaries on standby." - does not sound like exclusive crypto/tech.
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> Technology is also about to what means we will use the technology, and
> that could easily be a philosophical debate.
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> This is just my tiny opinion though.
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> On 24.03.14 17:03, Jacob wrote:
>> teaching a man how to fish? wtf, even backward tribes in the amazon
>> and stonage man, know how to fish, please again this is about
>> bitcoin and crypto stuff, so can the mod just delete the post, I
>> was here to do tech stuff, not to listen to peace core rants.
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>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???
>> <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>> wrote:
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>> I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is strictly about
>> technology then it is probably not a place for me. I have some
>> additional thoughts in response to comments here and on
>> socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.
>>
>> There is a parallel thread on socialswarm-discussion@???
>> <mailto:socialswarm-discussion@ml.foebud.org> so if this thread is
>> offensive then we can move.
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>> ----
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>> A few thoughts:
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>> I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm now coming to
>> the conclusion that it's not solving the real problem. Forgive me,
>> I'm not in my best form.
>>
>> Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only exist but can
>> garner the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.
>>
>> I value art, music, and literature and some will be far better
>> than I can ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society
>> decided that nomatter what a great musician or artist you may be,
>> you will be compelled to attend school and learn to read because
>> the threat to democracy of an illiterate populous was too grave to
>> accept. In this world with a computer on every desk and in every
>> pocket, everybody has an obligation to have a certain level of
>> understanding of these things.
>>
>> I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to learn how to
>> read either and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would
>> simply invent a machine to make people not need to know how to
>> read. Forgiveness is deserved.
>>
>> All of the concentration on usability is, as we would say in the
>> US, barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to make open
>> source projects more "usable" than facebook and their army of
>> designers, we can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.
>>
>> The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model will never
>> succeed here, every university CS class I've attended was teaching
>> 5-10 year old CS *history*.
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>> tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish
>> and he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit in a boat
>> and drink beer :)
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>> On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
>>> I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has to do with
>> bitcoin...
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>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???
>> <mailto:mk@nucleo.io>> wrote:
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>>>> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the written
>>>> language
>> of the day
>>>> is code and in this sea of information, anyone who remains
>> illiterate does
>>>> so by choice. "
>>>>
>>>> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one of the
>>>> philosophical grandfathers of the internet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James DeLisle
>>>> <cjd@???
>> <mailto:cjd@cjdns.fr>>:
>>>>
>>>>> I felt that I had to express something so I wrote it and gave
>>>>> it a
>>>> domain.
>>>>> http://thewebmustdie.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.
>>>>>
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