>>>> >     Excellent, I think this idea was first proposed by Voltare
>>>> >     (voluntarism). but less the leaches who predate on the labour and/
>>>> >     or life of others.

>>>> >     On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Adam Gmail
>>>> >     <adamlevinemobile@??? <mailto:adamlevinemobile@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>> >         It's about the tribe, tools for location independent community
>>>> >         and collaboration mean local is a philosophical decision, you
>>>> >         have many locals to pick yours from and you can even pick
>>>> many.

>>>> >         Morality is rules based, rules are localized so participating
>>>> In
>>>> >         disparate communities just means voluntarily opting in to
>>>> >         multiple rule sets and moralities.

>>>> >         It is good to have options.

>>>> >         Sent from my iPad

>>>> >         On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:32 AM, "jamileh s.t."
>>>> >         <xiaziyna@??? <mailto:xiaziyna@googlemail.com>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>> >         > as humans evolved from we have developed very efficient
>>>> >         computational devices. the ability to think on a group level
>>>> is
>>>> >         not something that comes easy to us as traditionally we would
>>>> be
>>>> >         part of a small and local community. being accustomed to such
>>>> an
>>>> >         environment it became typical for us to evaluate right and
>>>> wrong
>>>> >         for a small community mostly composed of family. the
>>>> definition
>>>> >         of right and wrong being something biological, something like
>>>> >         "how can i preserve as many humans who are most closely
>>>> related
>>>> >         for as long as possible". we developed secondary systems for
>>>> the
>>>> >         prime directive "how can i improve living quality", "i feel
>>>> pain
>>>> >         when i touch fire", "i feel sadness when i lose a loved one".
>>>> we
>>>> >         are now at a point in history where we have veered
>>>> sufficiently
>>>> >         away from such basic needs and the ruleset does not completely
>>>> >         suffice, we must now think on a group level, we are not
>>>> >         concerned with death, we place emphasis on other needs.
>>>> >         >
>>>> >         > it's difficult to define what this new ruleset should be,
>>>> >         should we completely abandon our earlier genetic tools in
>>>> favour
>>>> >         of computational answers? i don't think so completely, i think
>>>> >         inherently those earlier systems lead to good outcomes and
>>>> fast
>>>> >         decisions. for example, before we developed the current eye,
>>>> we
>>>> >         had a more primitive eye system which saw at a much faster
>>>> rate,
>>>> >         but with alot poorer vision, you can imagine how this is good
>>>> in
>>>> >         certain situations and in the same way how our very rough
>>>> >         genetic tools allow us to get a "feel" of the situation. you
>>>> can
>>>> >         say why do we need to stick to this arbitrary ruleset whose
>>>> sole
>>>> >         purpose is to preserve humanity, when maybe we can have
>>>> another
>>>> >         ruleset that does the same thing, maybe we don't need to be
>>>> kind
>>>> >         to each other but we can still survive on medicine and live
>>>> for
>>>> >         a long time. our genetic programming does allow for this, our
>>>> >         genetic programming allows us the intellectual capacity to
>>>> >         overcome our genetic programming. i believe this i
>>>> >          s where we should use computational tools, we are beginning
>>>> to
>>>> >         connect the points that form the logistic map, the
>>>> consequences
>>>> >         of waste, the consequence of slavery, the consequences of
>>>> >         hoarding information, these are all consequences which take
>>>> >         effect over time, and now due to the rapid rate the world
>>>> moves
>>>> >         at, are taking place within our lifetimes. a caveman without
>>>> >         computer could not predict such outcomes, like when they
>>>> hunted
>>>> >         to extinction the megafauna or killed off the neanderthals.

>>>> >         >
>>>> >         > so maybe "right" and "wrong" are not the correct words, but
>>>> >         it's kind of recursive, they have come to embody our
>>>> instincts,
>>>> >         and are thus defined by our instincts.
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