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Oh, also I was seriously contemplating (just now) acquiring these domains:

bieberchain.net
bieberchain.info
bieberchain.org

They are not taken yet and I decided not to buy them. go for it.

You're Welcome

-Odinn
proud co-owner of http://abis.io

> Yep. There you go. Just bootstrap bieber to the network and you have an
> uncensorable network, right?
>
> It's just a matter of time until the bieberchain breaks out into a
> screaming, youthful, distributed existence.
>
> Or has it already?
>
> http://abis.io
>
>> 8? i only got these 4,.., did i miss something?
>>
>>    "seed.bitcoin.sipa.be",
>>     "dnsseed.bluematt.me",
>>     "dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org",
>>     "bitseed.xf2.org",

>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Robert Williamson
>> <bobalot@???>wrote:
>>
>>> This doesn't work too well when many people choose Justin bieber as one
>>> of
>>> their 'friends'.
>>>
>>> Bitcoin is bootstrapped by about 8 ish DNS seeds, but these only
>>> deliver
>>> addr messages about other peers, which the client then begins
>>> downloading
>>> blocks from.
>>> On 16 Feb 2014 16:49, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everybody links to a friend through a social graph.
>>>> The data on the wire is udp with a 4 byte counter nonce and all
>>>> crypto/garbage
>>>> after that. It's not obfuscated but doesn't go out of it's way to
>>>> identify itself.
>>>> (I'm told it can be identified by Sandvine DPI boxes)
>>>>
>>>> I don't know of any reports to date of actual cjdns traffic being
>>>> dropped/mangled.
>>>>
>>>> On 02/16/2014 11:45 AM, Jacob wrote:
>>>> > I know btc is bootstrapped by 4 (?) nodes hardcoded into the
>>>> source,..,
>>>> how
>>>> > is hyperboria bootstrapped ? and where are the nodes located (in
>>>> wich
>>>> main
>>>> > domain).
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Caleb James DeLisle
>>>> <cjd@???
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Wonder if they're dropping hyperboria.net yet
>>>> >> like Russia
>>>> >>
>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1wl74h/russian_isp_blocks_hyperborianrt/
>>>> >> and China
>>>> >> http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=hyperboria.net
>>>> >>
>>>> >> #censorship #fail
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 02/16/2014 09:50 AM, Jacob wrote:
>>>> >>> Since most phones would play the role of a relay-hub it would
>>>> require
>>>> >>> continues operation,..., again we are back at the energy problem.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking
>>>> >> advantage
>>>> >>>> of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and
>>>> voila
>>>> -
>>>> >> and
>>>> >>>> of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there
>>>> >> already. I
>>>> >>>> heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov
>>>> turned
>>>> off
>>>> >>>> the mobile phone towers.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn
>>>> through
>>>> >> the
>>>> >>>>> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is
>>>> >> inherently
>>>> >>>>> short range too.
>>>> >>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to
>>>> the
>>>> sun
>>>> >>>>>> either,
>>>> >>>>>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth
>>>> capabilities
>>>> >> of
>>>> >>>>>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <
>>>> bobalot@???
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from
>>>> an
>>>> >>>>>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous
>>>> >> wireless and
>>>> >>>>>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
>>>> >>>>>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob
>>>> <jacobusbogers@???
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC
>>>> forbids
>>>> any
>>>> >>>>>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the
>>>> application
>>>> >> layer. I
>>>> >>>>>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM .
>>>> >> without long
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans,
>>>> there
>>>> >> are no
>>>> >>>>>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world,
>>>> and in
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the
>>>> transmission.
>>>> >> Ad hoc
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to
>>>> place
>>>> >> with for
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the
>>>> >> transport layer.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>> >> transport,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM
>>>> >> frequencies, and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using
>>>> whitespace
>>>> >> for adhoc
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> networks.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Drak
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No Link provided?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the
>>>> transmission
>>>> >> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> radio packets.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there
>>>> is
>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the
>>>> Mycelium
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> guys, watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob
>>>> <jacobusbogers@???>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear,
>>>> transmissions
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation
>>>> of
>>>> >> FCC rules and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,...,
>>>> anyone
>>>> >> has a
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it
>>>> >> possible
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level?
>>>> Or
>>>> to
>>>> >> block node
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or
>>>> >> encrypted at all).
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's
>>>> really
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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