8? i only got these 4,.., did i miss something?
"seed.bitcoin.sipa.be",
"dnsseed.bluematt.me",
"dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org",
"bitseed.xf2.org",
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>wrote:
> This doesn't work too well when many people choose Justin bieber as one of
> their 'friends'.
>
> Bitcoin is bootstrapped by about 8 ish DNS seeds, but these only deliver
> addr messages about other peers, which the client then begins downloading
> blocks from.
> On 16 Feb 2014 16:49, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:
>
>> Everybody links to a friend through a social graph.
>> The data on the wire is udp with a 4 byte counter nonce and all
>> crypto/garbage
>> after that. It's not obfuscated but doesn't go out of it's way to
>> identify itself.
>> (I'm told it can be identified by Sandvine DPI boxes)
>>
>> I don't know of any reports to date of actual cjdns traffic being
>> dropped/mangled.
>>
>> On 02/16/2014 11:45 AM, Jacob wrote:
>> > I know btc is bootstrapped by 4 (?) nodes hardcoded into the source,..,
>> how
>> > is hyperboria bootstrapped ? and where are the nodes located (in wich
>> main
>> > domain).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wonder if they're dropping hyperboria.net yet
>> >> like Russia
>> >>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1wl74h/russian_isp_blocks_hyperborianrt/
>> >> and China
>> >> http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=hyperboria.net
>> >>
>> >> #censorship #fail
>> >>
>> >> On 02/16/2014 09:50 AM, Jacob wrote:
>> >>> Since most phones would play the role of a relay-hub it would require
>> >>> continues operation,..., again we are back at the energy problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking
>> >> advantage
>> >>>> of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and voila
>> -
>> >> and
>> >>>> of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there
>> >> already. I
>> >>>> heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov turned
>> off
>> >>>> the mobile phone towers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn
>> through
>> >> the
>> >>>>> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is
>> >> inherently
>> >>>>> short range too.
>> >>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to the
>> sun
>> >>>>>> either,
>> >>>>>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth
>> capabilities
>> >> of
>> >>>>>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <
>> bobalot@???
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from an
>> >>>>>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous
>> >> wireless and
>> >>>>>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
>> >>>>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
>> >>>>>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC forbids
>> any
>> >>>>>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application
>> >> layer. I
>> >>>>>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM .
>> >> without long
>> >>>>>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans,
>> there
>> >> are no
>> >>>>>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world,
>> and in
>> >>>>>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the
>> transmission.
>> >> Ad hoc
>> >>>>>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to place
>> >> with for
>> >>>>>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the
>> >> transport layer.
>> >>>>>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of
>> the
>> >> transport,
>> >>>>>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM
>> >> frequencies, and
>> >>>>>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using whitespace
>> >> for adhoc
>> >>>>>>>>>> networks.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Drak
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
>> >>>>>>>>>>> No Link provided?
>> >>>>>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the
>> transmission
>> >> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>> radio packets.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there is
>> also
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the Mycelium
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> guys, watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear, transmissions
>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation of
>> >> FCC rules and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,..., anyone
>> >> has a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it
>> >> possible
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or to
>> >> block node
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or
>> >> encrypted at all).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's
>> really
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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