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Autore: Robert Williamson
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Oggetto: Re: [unSYSTEM] With Porn Filters Going Oh So Well, UK Roars Ahead In Expanding Them To Include 'Extremist' Content
This doesn't work too well when many people choose Justin bieber as one of
their 'friends'.

Bitcoin is bootstrapped by about 8 ish DNS seeds, but these only deliver
addr messages about other peers, which the client then begins downloading
blocks from.
On 16 Feb 2014 16:49, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:

> Everybody links to a friend through a social graph.
> The data on the wire is udp with a 4 byte counter nonce and all
> crypto/garbage
> after that. It's not obfuscated but doesn't go out of it's way to identify
> itself.
> (I'm told it can be identified by Sandvine DPI boxes)
>
> I don't know of any reports to date of actual cjdns traffic being
> dropped/mangled.
>
> On 02/16/2014 11:45 AM, Jacob wrote:
> > I know btc is bootstrapped by 4 (?) nodes hardcoded into the source,..,
> how
> > is hyperboria bootstrapped ? and where are the nodes located (in wich
> main
> > domain).
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Wonder if they're dropping hyperboria.net yet
> >> like Russia
> >>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1wl74h/russian_isp_blocks_hyperborianrt/
> >> and China
> >> http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=hyperboria.net
> >>
> >> #censorship #fail
> >>
> >> On 02/16/2014 09:50 AM, Jacob wrote:
> >>> Since most phones would play the role of a relay-hub it would require
> >>> continues operation,..., again we are back at the energy problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking
> >> advantage
> >>>> of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and voila
> -
> >> and
> >>>> of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there
> >> already. I
> >>>> heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov turned
> off
> >>>> the mobile phone towers.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn through
> >> the
> >>>>> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is
> >> inherently
> >>>>> short range too.
> >>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to the sun
> >>>>>> either,
> >>>>>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth
> capabilities
> >> of
> >>>>>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <
> bobalot@???
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from an
> >>>>>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous
> >> wireless and
> >>>>>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
> >>>>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
> >>>>>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC forbids
> any
> >>>>>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application
> >> layer. I
> >>>>>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM .
> >> without long
> >>>>>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans, there
> >> are no
> >>>>>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world, and
> in
> >>>>>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the transmission.
> >> Ad hoc
> >>>>>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to place
> >> with for
> >>>>>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the
> >> transport layer.
> >>>>>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of the
> >> transport,
> >>>>>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM
> >> frequencies, and
> >>>>>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using whitespace
> >> for adhoc
> >>>>>>>>>> networks.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Drak
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
> >>>>>>>>>>> No Link provided?
> >>>>>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the
> transmission
> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> radio packets.
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there is
> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the Mycelium
> >>>>>>>>>>>> guys, watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear, transmissions of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation of
> >> FCC rules and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,..., anyone
> >> has a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it
> >> possible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or to
> >> block node
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or
> >> encrypted at all).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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