I know btc is bootstrapped by 4 (?) nodes hardcoded into the source,.., how
is hyperboria bootstrapped ? and where are the nodes located (in wich main
domain).


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>wrote:

> Wonder if they're dropping hyperboria.net yet
> like Russia
> http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1wl74h/russian_isp_blocks_hyperborianrt/
> and China
> http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=hyperboria.net
>
> #censorship #fail
>
> On 02/16/2014 09:50 AM, Jacob wrote:
> > Since most phones would play the role of a relay-hub it would require
> > continues operation,..., again we are back at the energy problem.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >
> >> Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking
> advantage
> >> of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and voila -
> and
> >> of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there
> already. I
> >> heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov turned off
> >> the mobile phone towers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn through
> the
> >>> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is
> inherently
> >>> short range too.
> >>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to the sun
> >>>> either,
> >>>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth capabilities
> of
> >>>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???
> >wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from an
> >>>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous
> wireless and
> >>>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
> >>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
> >>>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???
> >wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC forbids any
> >>>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application
> layer. I
> >>>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM .
> without long
> >>>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans, there
> are no
> >>>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world, and in
> >>>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the transmission.
> Ad hoc
> >>>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to place
> with for
> >>>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the
> transport layer.
> >>>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of the
> transport,
> >>>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM
> frequencies, and
> >>>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using whitespace
> for adhoc
> >>>>>>>> networks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Drak
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
> >>>>>>>>> No Link provided?
> >>>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the transmission
> of
> >>>>>>>>> radio packets.
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there is also
> >>>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the Mycelium
> >>>>>>>>>> guys, watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear, transmissions of
> >>>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation of
> FCC rules and
> >>>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
> >>>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,..., anyone
> has a
> >>>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it
> possible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or to
> block node
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or
> encrypted at all).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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