USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC forbids any
encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application layer. I
don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM . without long
wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans, there are no
ocean faring cities yet.


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:

> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world, and in any
> case this simply talks about encryption of the transmission. Ad hoc
> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to place with for
> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the transport layer.
> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of the transport,
> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM frequencies, and
> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using whitespace for adhoc
> networks.
>
> Drak
>
>
>
> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>
>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
>> No Link provided?
>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the transmission of radio
>> packets.
>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there is also this
>>> coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the Mycelium guys, watch the
>>> video, it's pretty impressive.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear, transmissions of encrypted
>>>> data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation of FCC rules and brings
>>>> criminal prosecution....
>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,..., anyone has a phone
>>>> nr of Elen Musk?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it possible to
>>>>>> identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or to block node
>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or encrypted at all).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's really happening.
>>>>>>>
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