Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking advantage
of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and voila - and
of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there already. I
heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov turned off
the mobile phone towers.



On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???> wrote:

> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn through the
> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is inherently
> short range too.
> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>
>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to the sun
>> either,
>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth capabilities of
>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>wrote:
>>
>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from an
>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous wireless and
>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
>>>>
>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC forbids any
>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application layer. I
>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM . without long
>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans, there are no
>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world, and in
>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the transmission. Ad hoc
>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to place with for
>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the transport layer.
>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of the transport,
>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM frequencies, and
>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using whitespace for adhoc
>>>>>> networks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
>>>>>>> No Link provided?
>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the transmission of
>>>>>>> radio packets.
>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there is also
>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the Mycelium guys,
>>>>>>>> watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear, transmissions of
>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation of FCC rules and
>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,..., anyone has a
>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it possible
>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or to block node
>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or encrypted at all).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's really
>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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