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Autore: Julian Smith
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ponzi.io - ah new it, bitcoin had to be a Ponzi scheme. now it is. :)


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla <
odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:

> Hello Amir and all Unsystem folks following this thread,
>
> I'll share this with you here once more, because it's relevant to what you
> have just mentioned:
>
> https://gist.github.com/ABISprotocol/8515891
>
> "Microdonations using Cryptocurrencies," re-envisioning what a transaction
> is and how we interact with decentralized protocols and 'money.'
> We've received some technical input from a few different people relating
> to fees, threshold(s) in wallet for when donations could be made, UTXO set
> issues, privacy concerns (SX has been discussed in the context of
> technical conversation about this project), and other technical issues
> forwallet development and other aspects of the project, and of course we
> are looking forward to your thoughts from the Unsystem list.
>
> There are lots of technical issues to consider, but they are not
> insurmountable.
>
>
> Respect,
>
> -Odinn
>
> "This is a project to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving
> economy.
>
> We want nothing less than to give you, and everyone in the world,
> profoundly expanded choices that allow you to imagine, co-create, make,
> and take part in transactions."
>
>
>
> > well you know if you make a corporation, and said corporation is given
> > access as one of a selective few to a wider market than you have hit the
> > jackpot.
> >
> > there's another few who see bitcoin also as a tool, but seek to apply it
> > in a different way. through a combination of future vision, and
> > recognition of life being more than personal bank balances.
> > it might be a dawning social awareness, that there is more to life:
> > things like love, culture, experiences, personal growth ...
> >
> > viewed through this lens, it becomes more crucial to preserve bitcoin
> > intact. because for every real loss to bitcoin as a technology even if
> > the market gains, translates to long term loss in potential of the
> > technology.
> >
> > but if your goal is immediate profit, or winning support from profit
> > seekers (who don't have *your* interest aligned with theirs) at the
> > expense of effecting real change in the situation... it might be
> > tempting to throw up our hands, say "fuck it", and buy into the whole
> > paradigm that needs to be undermined. but then we are effecting our own
> > demise and sacrificing liberty for easy comfort. no one said this would
> > be easy, but the real long term reward is massive if we succeed - our
> > survival, our sovereignty, our freedom.
> >
> > Bitcoin corporations want to become 'legit' so they seek regulation of
> > BTC. They are willing to sacrifice on the principles of Bitcoin to win
> > short term favour. They believe in placating to power in order to curry
> > special favour.
> > Part of this involves a phony clean image of Bitcoin with progress led
> > by professional men in suits. They are anti black-markets or any
> > association of them with Bitcoin. black-market is not a dirty world -
> > it's the oldest and purest form of trade. we shouldn't be ashamed. we
> > should not shy away from these connotations, as that's a big tactic used
> > to dominate and subjugate people into compliance. it's basically peer
> > pressure to conform when you think different.
> >
> > On 08/02/14 20:17, jindq1 wrote:
> >> Haha. You said it buddy. Bitcoin is about personal profit and bitcoiners
> >> becoming the 1%, not about getting rid of the 1%. I really wish people
> >> would stop staring at the price and just learn to use bitcoin. The fact
> >> bitcoin is fueled primarily by greed and deception that I have begun to
> >> think projects like Ripple or even DogeCoin are more worth people's
> >> time.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
> >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     but he doesn't look respectable!

> >>
> >>     oh the good old days when we had decent individuals like trace mayer
> >>     representing us.

> >>
> >>     > high net-worth individuals pumping bitcoin
> >>     > bitcoin becomes legit
> >>     > big money invests
> >>     > my holdings go up
> >>     > bitcoin becomes legit, regulation ensues, corporations thrive
> >>     > fuck the small guy

> >>
> >>     On 08/02/14 14:52, Jason King wrote:
> >>     > Great piece with Amir talking about taking back the world with
> >>     bitcoin.
> >>     > Nice hoodie... :)
> >>     >

> >>     >

> >>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2a4AfleTE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
> >>     >

> >>     >

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