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Skribent: Vanessa Gocksch
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Emne: Re: [Bricolabs] bricos input desired...tribes, green technologies, communities, solutions and self determination
Hellooooooo.........

Also a bit detached from Bricolabs as of late...Nice imput Rob....( but i
dont understand why its so strange 11 women would get pregnant at the same
time??, its pretty common in my town)

Vicky....Here in Colombia / Latin America there is everyday more events /
encounters where "the elders" and young people are coming together to
exchange knowledge, unite " to fight the powers that be", integrate their
very diferent skills to make posssible events etc...

Here are some examples:
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Here is a reverse example:

The mayor of Bogota (capital of Colombia) Petro was destituted illegaly in
December 13, which caused the population of Bogota to rise up and defend
Petro's right to his office, they were supported by a large group of
indigenous Nasa people which marched from the Cauca region to accompany and
help support the general strike in the capitol; the support of the
indigenous people was key because they have long experience in marching etc
and have developed tactics to not let the anti protest police break up
their marches etc..
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Here a nice encounter that took place last month in Colombia, bringing
together farmers, indigenous people, young techies:

http://minkalab.org/

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Also, a nice movement started by one of Colombia's rock "star" Hector
Buitrago, CANTO AL AGUA; which is a series of reunions all over the place
to " sing to water" ( a specific mantra) so that water of the world may
heal...
I really love it because its an initiative stemming from the alternative
Bogota scene but which involves alot of knowledge acquiered through study
of diferent spiritual traditions and participation in many yage
ceremonies....
http://www.cantoalagua.com/

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And a big percentage of the grafiti artists in Bogota seem to have the
spirit of mother earth, the force of the jaguar, the message of the
anscestors, the essence of psicedelic medicines as their main inspiration,
the jungle has invaded the streets of Bogota!!!!:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bulkar/

http://www.stink.tk/

https://www.google.com.co/search?q=graffiti+26+Bogota&client=firefox-a&hs=a4S&rls=org.mozilla:es-ES:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0ddOUtzOCoXY9ATMmIDIDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1076&bih=861&dpr=1#q=graffiti++Bogota&rls=org.mozilla:es-ES%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&imgdii=_
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As far as the elders, the eagle and the condor...I dont know...I think you
have to take it all with a grain of salt...I live in Colombia, but Im
definetly not in the land of the condor, id say im in the land of the
Jaguar...or the humming bird...or the mackaw....
Also sometimes " the elders" end up as just more guilds of
patriarchs.....so its important to not be too idealistic about the whole
thing....Sometimes..."the elders" are not so open to young people which are
not indigenous wanting to take part at a spiritual level, they can be
pretty jealous and end up stopping very innovative processes which
integrate the milinary with new ideas....
When this happens its hard to do anything because, since " they are the
elders" I find it very hard to question their decisions....
So hopefully finding spaces for this to start happening is key, as I agree
with Rob, that we cannot "go back", especially considering how much
knowledge indigenous people have lost ...the key is hopefully to try and
salvage the best from both worlds (or the hundred worlds) and propose
forge that "new world" we all dream of...

with that said....we have a land called " El Ensueño" (the dream spell) in
the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, inside Kogi territory and the idea is for
this place to be a lab for exactly just this process I have mentioned, we
dont have much info online yet, especially not in english...here are a few
fotos:
http://intermundos.org/residencias/recursos/
lastest activities:
http://intermundos.org/residencias/blog/

Hope this helps....

Vanessa







2014-02-06 Ann Light <ann.light@???>:

> Hi Victoria,
>
>
>
> Sounds like what you are doing is amazing. Over here, our work with older
> people (would love them to be elders but Britain doesn't think like that)
> might be relevant since it's self determination, eco-solutions and water.
> See it here: http://www.active-energy-london.org/
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>
>
> And I've attached a paper that is about to be published about the struggle
> of getting this far (when we still thought we wouldn't).
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> Hope this is useful and reaches you in time!
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> All best
>
> Ann
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> *From:* Brico [mailto:brico-bounces@lists.dyne.org] *On Behalf Of *Victoria
> Sinclair
> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 18:14
> *To:* Bricolabs startup mailinglist; brico-bounces@???
>
> *Subject:* [Bricolabs] bricos input desired...tribes, green technologies,
> communities, solutions and self determination
>
>
>
>
> Dear Bricos
>
> it's been a while!   Greetings from Australia, where i have ended up after
> much travel in recent times, taking me to the lands of the Eagle and Condor
> on several occasions and now to here the land of the Rainbow Serpent.    i
> have been doing a part time MSc in Transpersonal Psychology, Consciousness
> and Spirituality on top of  working linking together indigenous groups
> where possible and studying quite a lot of plant medicines and healing
> modalities.   But i havent quite lost sight of things Brico, and now, as i
> have just been called to present at a delegation with numerous elders and
> innovators or Green Technologies at the weekend  (no pressure
> lastminute.com style of course) on

>
> what various networks of Elders are doing internationally to lead to self
> determination
>
> i have been working a little with the international sovereignty movement,
> but when i got the request for a presentation last night, began to think
> about the networks i know, and talked to some of them
>
> what i have been asked to talk about still hasnt progressed to full
> realisation in a majority of communities because of many problems the
> Bricolabs network have been working on
>
> p2p networking, low tech solutions, distributed networks, water projects
> etc
>
> and i felt that rather than giving a presentation on the opening morning
> about all the trauma and lack of communications and rifts in communities
> (which will get a mention of course) it would be great to look at how there
> are many Elders in communities
>
> hubs, young people, groups working to preserve their heritage or to work
> with green technologies/knowledge sharing etc
>
> and just wanted to ask the Bricolabs network if anyone has any info they
> would like to share at this time about the progress of any work you are
> doing, or how you would go about empowering Elders (especially indigenous)
> ones to lead to greater self determination
>
> One of the reasons i got asked to speak is because a major objective of
> the delegation is to identify some pilots of green technologies that will
> be replicated in commmunities, first in China, Australia and Chile, and
> then elsewhere.    There is a substantial amount of money being put in for
> the pilots, and one reason i am there i guess is to make sure that there is
> representation of the fact that there is awareness of grass roots
> communities and how they can be involved in this rather than some high end
> testing which just leads to profit by some  rich entrepreneurs.

>
> So, Bricos, if you have any updates or stories for me please, i would be
> really grateful to be back in touch with this. The meetings have the
> blessing and attendance of numerous Origine, Maori, Fijian, Easter Island
> and beyond tribes....and further solidarity with groups in more distant
> places is particularly welcomed from them at this time
>
> hope to connect soon!
>
> vx
>
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> www.ethicalsolutions23.wordpress.com
> Project Manager Generate Project and founder ArcSpace Manchester
> Co-ordinator Hackademia festival www.hackademia.org.uk
> Alumni Asian-Europe Foundation 360degrees
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