Mainstream western society embraces the notion that male criminals should
be raped in prison (universal soap jokes).

A more enlightened perspective is that prison rape should only happen to
sex offenders, or possibly only to pedophiles.

To weaponize sex is a simple easy way to control both male and female
populations, and get them to shut up and not complain about it.

Because who domains about a funny joke right?
On Jan 30, 2014 7:19 PM, "Joerg Platzer" <joerg@???> wrote:

>
> "Then it is the duty for us all to help destroy cultural shackles.... "
>
> No can you please leave my shackles alone?
>
> "Cultural slavery is just that if we excuse rape and abuse because someone
> says it's culture well I say fuck your culture I have my own, ..."
>
> Exactly. So why the hell do you want to tell people they have a "duty" to
> mess with my shackles?
>
> My culture!?
>
> You have completely missunderstood the term "culture".
>
> And I am not aware of any human society that "culturally" excuses rape and
> abuse. I mean openly, as a "cultural" value.
>
> ++jp
>
>
>
>
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>
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> ________________________________________
> Von: unSYSTEM [unsystem-bounces@???]&quot; im Auftrag von
> &quot;Aimee Maree [aimee@???]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2014 22:10
> An: System undo crew
> Cc: System undo crew
> Betreff: Re: [unSYSTEM] Where are all the women in Bitcoin? Here they are!
>
> Then it is the duty for us all to help destroy cultural shackles.... It
> has taken me years in my family to make them realise their culture is not
> mine and I do not acknowledge their gods or their sexist ways... I have
> shown my cousins the same they do not need to be married with babies to
> hold worth and value... This is the first generation of women in my family
> who have university degrees :)
>
> It has been and is the biggest burden in my life... someone else's views
> oppressed on me because of a land my mothers mother happened to be born
> in... I can not think of a more ridiculous argument... And I am made to
> feel bad by relatives all the time... I you ask them I just make computers
> do things and soon I'll have babies... tell them I have presented on an
> international stage and they will still tell me how amazing it is my male
> cousin works as a programmer for a horrible mining company... I bought my
> mother a house because that is my cultural obligation to take care of
> her... so I pay $$ for my rent and $$ for a mortgage for a house for my mum
> to spend 3 days a week in because it's her cultural obligation to take care
> of my grandmother... Try explaining that to the average Aussie and they
> look at you like your insane...
>
> I counsel women all the time and men who are like me born into two worlds
> and forced into accepting the ancient one they don't agree with...
>
> Their are many great talks on this topic it is something that is close to
> my heart and my particular activism. Cultural slavery is just that if we
> excuse rape and abuse because someone says it's culture well I say fuck
> your culture I have my own, culture is intrinsic to us all and whilst we
> have forced extrinsic cultural values they should not be foreshadowed by
> intrinsic ones...
>
> also these people depend on us, the old saying am I my brothers keeper...
> yes I am... yes I am!
>
>
>
>
> > On 31 Jan 2014, at 7:17 am, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???>
> wrote:
> >
> > I empathize with all humans as we are all subject to our circumstances,
> > which we were born into, and ultimately out of. I am me because of
> > forces that existed before me, and the same is true for others.
> >
> > If you tell a better story, build a better culture, and inspire new
> generations
> > then there is no reason to brandish weapons to destroy the things we
> > disagree with.
> >
> > It is not necessary to destroy old worlds, only build them. There are
> > people we must defend against, but they are not those bound by
> > cultural shackles, they are those who will take from the many to
> > enrich only themselves or a select few - with no remorse.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2014, at 4:23 AM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >
> >>> These people are not your oppressor. You need to look only in the
> >> trenches of your own mind to find that.
> >>
> >> point taken. your words are wise.
> >>
> >> but I feel in your writings, a certain sense of empathy with all of
> >> humanity on an equal level. certainly if we want to help people, we need
> >> to understand through empathy rather than dictating from a position of
> >> power. yet in some ways, while I remain hopeful for the world as a
> >> whole, I'm not feeling empathy with everyone nor feeling a pressing urge
> >> to rescue wage slaves, your everyday fascist, gold diggers or overgrown
> >> frat boys. as a culture, I want it to die.
> >>
> >>> On 30/01/14 01:50, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call
> culture a
> >>> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and who
> >>> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
> >>> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not prepared
> to meet.
> >>>
> >>> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are all
> human
> >>> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual
> circumstances
> >>> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not
> fit into
> >>> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
> >>>
> >>> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few women
> to back
> >>> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as it
> may
> >>> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are
> beautiful women
> >>> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance where
> they are
> >>> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They can
> hardly
> >>> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
> >>>
> >>> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions
> that we
> >>> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal or
> physical.
> >>> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be
> prepared to
> >>> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't really
> a great
> >>> argument.
> >>>
> >>> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
> >>> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my worthlessness?
> No.
> >>>
> >>> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born
> intelligent, some
> >>> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are
> beautiful and
> >>> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice. Can
> we in good
> >>> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based on
> other
> >>> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like you
> have
> >>> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you overcome
> yourself,
> >>> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your
> intelligence to find
> >>> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may move
> only with
> >>> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is obvious.
> >>>
> >>> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what chance
> do these
> >>> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with power
> >>> responsibility. You may see these people as icons of things that you
> find
> >>> repulsive and destructive, but they are just human beings. Tiny,
> mortal beings
> >>> trapped between a great nothing and an infinity - trying to find a bit
> of meaning
> >>> and love before they meet an uncertain end.
> >>>
> >>> I hope that we, in this position we find ourselves in - as builders of
> the future -
> >>> take the time to avoid this mob-like hatred of the things that we fear
> and instead
> >>> try to see them fully and act as protectors of our brothers and
> sisters, not
> >>> tyrants who mistake the thoughts that live inside a mind for the
> actual person.
> >>>
> >>> These people are our brothers and sisters. They may be lost, and it is
> our job
> >>> to find the truth and bring it to them with the love and support that
> is required
> >>> of our family. It doesn't matter how many people +1 or pat each other
> on the
> >>> back. It is wrong to generalize and hate and It always will be. An
> angry mob
> >>> can destroy a mind or burn a body but they can never move the truth.
> >>>
> >>> These people are not your oppressor. You need to look only in the
> trenches of
> >>> your own mind to find that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Also there's a difference between a woman who is forced to prostitute
> >>>> because she is dependent or in bad situation, someone who just enjoys
> to
> >>>> do it (no problem with that either- personal choice) VS girls who use
> >>>> their sexuality to curry favour for personal benefits - *especially*
> >>>> when those benefits are bourgeoise.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are some really fucked up relationships that are basically a
> >>>> business arrangement. Many of them even involve kids and marriages.
> They
> >>>> have no love except a mutual arrangement. When the money dries up, the
> >>>> man loses his wife. When the woman gets old, she is worthless.
> >>>>
> >>>> And imagine the kids raised in those families!
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y2UPNjRvB8
> >>>>
> >>>> The blonde girl is reduced to tears because what Jane Elliott says,
> she
> >>>> knows deep down in her heart is true.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 30/01/14 00:00, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>> What do you mean by superiority? I don't think all cultures are
> equally
> >>>>> valid. I don't mind putting down crap culture.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82WwqXyyWXg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is promoted by mainstream culture. Yet sex itself is a big
> taboo.
> >>>>> Instead of teaching teenagers about relationships, we push
> >>>>> celebrity/products/consumerism on them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We are not promoting healthy attitudes to life in general. The world
> is
> >>>>> fucked up because adults cannot have normal relationships with each
> >>>>> other. Sex is feared. Women are objects. Men want a pure woman.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is common throughout the world. Many men have it:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are Saudi princes who maintain whore-houses while raising a
> family
> >>>>> with other women.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29/01/14 22:38, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>>>>> I'm making no comment on any systems.
> >>>>>> I'm saying you're claiming some sort of intellectual superiority
> which you are
> >>>>>> neglecting to use towards those you do not feel an immediate
> cultural connection with.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
> >>>>>>> complicit in some way.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces
> people
> >>>>>>>> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
> >>>>>>>> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive?
> Would
> >>>>>>>> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when
> we
> >>>>>>>> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are
> responsible
> >>>>>>>> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the
> world as
> >>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
> >>>>>>>>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:
> elizabeth@???>
> >>>>>>>>>> Manager of Communications
> >>>>>>>>>> Bitcoin Magazine
> >>>>>>>>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Rough day?
> >>>>>>>>>> He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
> >>>>>>>>>> paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <
> iamtexture@???
> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You lost me at the dumb whores part.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
> >>>>>>>>>>> expectations.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be
> able
> >>>>>>>>>>> to dress
> >>>>>>>>>>> however they like and still demand respect and love. That
> >>>>>>>>>>> includes American,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
> >>>>>>>>>>> These women
> >>>>>>>>>>> are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
> >>>>>>>>>>> just like
> >>>>>>>>>>> everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
> >>>>>>>>>>> universe,
> >>>>>>>>>>> unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
> >>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>> they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
> >>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>> mental state of those around them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
> >>>>>>>>>>> women.
> >>>>>>>>>>> A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to
> stand
> >>>>>>>>>>> next to a
> >>>>>>>>>>> product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
> >>>>>>>>>>> exploitative of
> >>>>>>>>>>> the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
> >>>>>>>>>>> reflective of us as a whole,
> >>>>>>>>>>> human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
> >>>>>>>>>>> culturally mandated,
> >>>>>>>>>>> but which extend from our being as animals who require
> >>>>>>>>>>> procreation and
> >>>>>>>>>>> survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
> >>>>>>>>>>> associating this
> >>>>>>>>>>> product with beautiful women.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets
> better.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussions
> >>>>>>>>>>>> about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their
> value
> >>>>>>>>>>>> through
> >>>>>>>>>>>> their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who
> will go
> >>>>>>>>>>>> through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex
> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> good,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin
> through
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
> >>>>>>>>>>>> community is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> trash.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
> >>>>>>>>>>>> about me
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
> >>>>>>>>>>>> girls do to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Elizabeth who
> >>>>>>>>>>>> works tirelessly on Bitcoin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have smart capable women in our community, so why are we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> promoting
> >>>>>>>>>>>> these dumb whores? Who the fuck are they? Plastic girls with
> big
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tits?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow you're so cool. It reminds me of when the BF choose that
> young
> >>>>>>>>>>>> plastic pretty spokesgirl to represent them on TV who knew
> >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing about
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bitcoin. And those BitPay adverts who use the girl in pretty
> red
> >>>>>>>>>>>> lipstick to push their product. Why not promote a world based
> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> love
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with relationships established based on mutual understanding,
> rather
> >>>>>>>>>>>> than promoting a world where men make money to fuck good
> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>> young
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bitches. 90% of you will never be in that bracket either.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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