Συντάκτης: Jonathan James Harrison Ημερομηνία: Προς: System undo crew Αντικείμενο: Re: [unSYSTEM] Where are all the women in Bitcoin? Here they are!
On Thursday, 30 January 2014, Aimee Maree <aimee@???> wrote:
> Then it is the duty for us all to help destroy cultural shackles.... It
> has taken me years in my family to make them realise their culture is not
> mine and I do not acknowledge their gods or their sexist ways... I have
> shown my cousins the same they do not need to be married with babies to
> hold worth and value... This is the first generation of women in my family
> who have university degrees :)
>
> It has been and is the biggest burden in my life... someone else's views
> oppressed on me because of a land my mothers mother happened to be born
> in... I can not think of a more ridiculous argument... And I am made to
> feel bad by relatives all the time... I you ask them I just make computers
> do things and soon I'll have babies... tell them I have presented on an
> international stage and they will still tell me how amazing it is my male
> cousin works as a programmer for a horrible mining company... I bought my
> mother a house because that is my cultural obligation to take care of
> her... so I pay $$ for my rent and $$ for a mortgage for a house for my mum
> to spend 3 days a week in because it's her cultural obligation to take care
> of my grandmother... Try explaining that to the average Aussie and they
> look at you like your insane...
>
> I counsel women all the time and men who are like me born into two worlds
> and forced into accepting the ancient one they don't agree with...
>
> Their are many great talks on this topic it is something that is close to
> my heart and my particular activism. Cultural slavery is just that if we
> excuse rape and abuse because someone says it's culture well I say fuck
> your culture I have my own, culture is intrinsic to us all and whilst we
> have forced extrinsic cultural values they should not be foreshadowed by
> intrinsic ones...
>
> also these people depend on us, the old saying am I my brothers keeper...
> yes I am... yes I am!
>
>
>
>
> > On 31 Jan 2014, at 7:17 am, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???>
> wrote:
> >
> > I empathize with all humans as we are all subject to our circumstances,
> > which we were born into, and ultimately out of. I am me because of
> > forces that existed before me, and the same is true for others.
> >
> > If you tell a better story, build a better culture, and inspire new
> generations
> > then there is no reason to brandish weapons to destroy the things we
> > disagree with.
> >
> > It is not necessary to destroy old worlds, only build them. There are
> > people we must defend against, but they are not those bound by
> > cultural shackles, they are those who will take from the many to
> > enrich only themselves or a select few - with no remorse.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2014, at 4:23 AM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >
> >>> These people are not your oppressor. You need to look only in the
> >> trenches of your own mind to find that.
> >>
> >> point taken. your words are wise.
> >>
> >> but I feel in your writings, a certain sense of empathy with all of
> >> humanity on an equal level. certainly if we want to help people, we need
> >> to understand through empathy rather than dictating from a position of
> >> power. yet in some ways, while I remain hopeful for the world as a
> >> whole, I'm not feeling empathy with everyone nor feeling a pressing urge
> >> to rescue wage slaves, your everyday fascist, gold diggers or overgrown
> >> frat boys. as a culture, I want it to die.
> >>
> >>> On 30/01/14 01:50, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call
> culture a
> >>> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and who
> >>> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
> >>> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not prepared
> to meet.
> >>>
> >>> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are all
> human
> >>> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual
> circumstances
> >>> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not
> fit into
> >>> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
> >>>
> >>> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few women
> to back
> >>> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as it
> may
> >>> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are
> beautiful women
> >>> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance where
> they are
> >>> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They can
> hardly
> >>> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
> >>>
> >>> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions
> that we
> >>> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal or
> physical.
> >>> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be
> prepared to
> >>> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't really
> a great
> >>> argument.
> >>>
> >>> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
> >>> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my worthlessness?
> No.
> >>>
> >>> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born
> intelligent, some
> >>> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are
> beautiful and
> >>> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice. Can
> we in good
> >>> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based on
> other
> >>> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like you
> have
> >>> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you overcome
> yourself,
> >>> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your
> intelligence to find
> >>> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may move
> only with
> >>> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is obvious.
> >>>
> >>> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what chance
> do these
> >>> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with power
> >>> responsibility. You may see these people as icons of things that you
> find
> >
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