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Since everybody and their doge seems to be jumping on this topic I thought
I would as well...

"Chinese Damas Mad for Bitcoin"
http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2013/11-15/88703.shtml

"Over Half of China's New Bitcoin Traders Are Women"
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20131130000055&cid=1102

"Mint Now Lets You Keep Track of Bitcoins With Its Personal Finance Apps"
(Just as an aside, there are a lot of female Mint users)
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/30/mint-tracks-bitcoin/?ncid=rss_truncated

"Forbes... About 60 Percent of Overstock customers are Women"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikamorphy/2014/01/22/here-is-what-bitcoin-users-are-buying-on-overstock-com/

But what about North Korea?
Jan. 4, 2014:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ulha7/the_first_bitcoin_transaction_in_north_korea/

Cheers,

-Odinn
> http://www.businessinsider.com/us-olympic-bobsled-suits-are-tight-2014-1
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Cody R Wilson
> <codywilson@???>wrote:
>
>> And yet we haven't swallowed it. The horde and I go on happily adhering
>> to
>> those outmoded sex norms.
>>
>> And the norms really do come down to sex, for which gender is no
>> synonym.
>> Might I offer that the intentional effort to neutralize sex differences
>> in
>> our community engagements comes from a sublimated moral delusion?
>> On Jan 29, 2014 10:40 PM, "Aimee Maree" <aimee@???> wrote:
>>
>>> not everyone has eyes in their head some use their ears as their eyes
>>> do
>>> not work... Some are born with no gender or both genders... It is the
>>> most
>>> limiting concept in society... that's a red pill we should all
>>> acknowledge humans made gender to nature there is no separation...
>>>
>>> anyways and anywho ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Jan 2014, at 3:23 pm, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just stopped by for team red pill. There is more wisdom in your body
>>> than
>>> in your deepest philosophy.
>>>
>>> The sexual market has laws we acknowledge with our eyes and minds
>>> despite
>>> our most furious protests otherwise.
>>> On Jan 29, 2014 10:08 PM, "Elizabeth Ploshay" <
>>> elizabeth@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Patrick, great point there. Agreed!
>>>>
>>>> *Elizabeth T. Ploshay*
>>>> elizabeth@???
>>>> Manager of Communications
>>>> Bitcoin Magazine
>>>> elizabethtploshay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Robert Jakob
>>>> <rsjakob@???>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just think that was the point he was trying to make.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Patrick Murck <
>>>>> patrick@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just my personal take on the "booth babe" thing. If you want
>>>>>> to trot out booth babes all you have accomplished is signaling to me
>>>>>> that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) You don't believe in your product/service/value proposition
>>>>>> 2) You have poor taste and judgment
>>>>>> 3) And I won't be stopping by your booth for a sales pitch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But hey, knock yourself out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On January 29, 2014 at 10:42:12 PM, Jonathan James Harrison (
>>>>>> jonathanjamesharrison@??? <//jonathanjamesharrison@???>)
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about toilet cleaners at exhibitions they are objectified as
>>>>>> sanitation machines.
>>>>>> Booth babes know they are being objectified and get paid well to be
>>>>>> objectified.
>>>>>> Many men like to look at sexually attractive women which is very
>>>>>> natural.
>>>>>> Booth babes can be great for promotions.
>>>>>> Nice thing about bitcoin is you can set up a company anonymously and
>>>>>> if you do that as women you know that there will be absolutely no
>>>>>> discrimination against you.
>>>>>> Satoshi maybe a black Serbian lesbian for all we know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 30 January 2014, Aimee Maree <aimee@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When performing surveys it is one of the number 1 reasons women
>>>>>>> don't attend tech conferences... So diversity is affected
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So booth babes are not about allowing women to be women it's about
>>>>>>> objectification which is wrong for men women and children oh and by
>>>>>>> the way
>>>>>>> those who are born with multi genders or a-sexual and animals etc
>>>>>>> we need
>>>>>>> to allow people to be themselves but we also need to allow
>>>>>>> minorities to
>>>>>>> feel comfortable if we are ever to change the rule of White Anglo
>>>>>>> men...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if you want sex you go to a sex shop that's all cool I'm fine
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> that I would like to see unions set up for prostitues personally
>>>>>>> however if
>>>>>>> I attend a tech conference I'm there for other reasons just like
>>>>>>> when I go
>>>>>>> to an underground party or when I attend a trans gender meet-up etc
>>>>>>> etc see
>>>>>>> my point here is horses for courses in regards to the booth babes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway these are just some points no way are they saying change
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> mind but just hey this is what the people who attend your
>>>>>>> conferences say
>>>>>>> and I personally would never attend a conference with a booth babe
>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>> had enough problems being a technical women in IT let alone to be
>>>>>>> in a room
>>>>>>> where my gender is subjectified. So you can have your booth babes
>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>> high number of women won't be at your conferences and you will
>>>>>>> sending a
>>>>>>> message to young girls sorry in IT your still seen as a joke!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways just some thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 Jan 2014, at 1:38 pm, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That being said, there is a point to be made. I think "booth
>>>>>>> babes" are rather harmless. That kind of superficial lust can
>>>>>>> snowball
>>>>>>> into worse things like prostitution, sexual slaver, child
>>>>>>> marriages, etc...
>>>>>>> It's like the symptom of a deeper sickness. However, when you
>>>>>>> start down
>>>>>>> that path of dictating how a person should live, or act, or dress,
>>>>>>> or what
>>>>>>> kind of personality they should have, it becomes a slippery slope.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> becomes a new disease. The whole reason we are all
>>>>>>> anti-establishment in
>>>>>>> the first place. If you infringe on another's right to be free and
>>>>>>> express
>>>>>>> themselves in any way that makes them happy, you become the
>>>>>>> oppressor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I do agree with both sides of the argument. I abhor the
>>>>>>> objectification of human beings, and the superficial, and the
>>>>>>> materialistic, but I also believe free-will is the most fundamental
>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Anthony D'Onofrio <
>>>>>>> iamtexture@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, obviously what I wrote was equivalent to calling Amir a whore
>>>>>>> and getting
>>>>>>> a group of people to ignorantly nod their heads in agreement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on the overwhelming ridiculous response by everyone here
>>>>>>> today
>>>>>>> - this
>>>>>>> group is obviously not what I thought it was. Good luck with your
>>>>>>> lynchings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And condemning someone for their opinions is just as judgmental
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> hypocritical.
>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014 7:50 PM, "Anthony D'Onofrio" <iamtexture@???>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call
>>>>>>> culture a
>>>>>>> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
>>>>>>> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not
>>>>>>> prepared to meet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual
>>>>>>> circumstances
>>>>>>> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not
>>>>>>> fit into
>>>>>>> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few
>>>>>>> women
>>>>>>> to back
>>>>>>> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are
>>>>>>> beautiful women
>>>>>>> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> hardly
>>>>>>> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions
>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> physical.
>>>>>>> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be
>>>>>>> prepared to
>>>>>>> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't
>>>>>>> really a great
>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
>>>>>>> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my
>>>>>>> worthlessness? No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born
>>>>>>> intelligent, some
>>>>>>> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are
>>>>>>> beautiful and
>>>>>>> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice.
>>>>>>> Can we in good
>>>>>>> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you
>>>>>>> overcome
>>>>>>> yourself,
>>>>>>> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your
>>>>>>> intelligence to find
>>>>>>> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may
>>>>>>> move only with
>>>>>>> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is
>>>>>>> obvious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what
>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>> do these
>>>>>>> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with
>>>>>>> power
>>>>>>> responsibility. You may see t
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> patrick@???
>>>>>> 703.608.8864
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @virtuallylaw
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmurck
>>>>>>
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