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Auteur: Elizabeth Ploshay
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Aan: System undo crew
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] Where are all the women in Bitcoin? Here they are!
Amir,

So true.


*Elizabeth T. Ploshay*
elizabeth@???
Manager of Communications
Bitcoin Magazine
elizabethtploshay.com


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:

> What do you mean by superiority? I don't think all cultures are equally
> valid. I don't mind putting down crap culture.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82WwqXyyWXg
>
> This is promoted by mainstream culture. Yet sex itself is a big taboo.
> Instead of teaching teenagers about relationships, we push
> celebrity/products/consumerism on them.
>
> We are not promoting healthy attitudes to life in general. The world is
> fucked up because adults cannot have normal relationships with each
> other. Sex is feared. Women are objects. Men want a pure woman.
>
> This is common throughout the world. Many men have it:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
>
> There are Saudi princes who maintain whore-houses while raising a family
> with other women.
>
> On 29/01/14 22:38, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> > I'm making no comment on any systems.
> > I'm saying you're claiming some sort of intellectual superiority which
> you are
> > neglecting to use towards those you do not feel an immediate cultural
> connection with.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >
> >> We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
> >> complicit in some way.
> >>
> >> On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces people
> >>> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
> >>> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive? Would
> >>> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when we
> >>> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are responsible
> >>> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
> >>>
> >>> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the world
> as
> >>>> well.
> >>>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
> >>>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:elizabeth@bitcoinmagazine.com>
> >>>>> Manager of Communications
> >>>>> Bitcoin Magazine
> >>>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
> >>>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Rough day?
> >>>>>    He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
> >>>>>    paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.

> >>>>>
> >>>>>    https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753

> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
> >>>>>    <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:

> >>>>>
> >>>>>>    You lost me at the dumb whores part.
> >>>>>>    Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
> >>>>>>    expectations.
> >>>>>>    Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be able
> >>>>>>    to dress
> >>>>>>    however they like and still demand respect and love. That
> >>>>>>    includes American,
> >>>>>>    Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
> >>>>>>    These women
> >>>>>>    are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
> >>>>>>    just like
> >>>>>>    everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
> >>>>>>    universe,
> >>>>>>    unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
> >>>>>>    environment
> >>>>>>    they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
> >>>>>>    and the
> >>>>>>    mental state of those around them.

> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
> >>>>>>    women.
> >>>>>>    A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to stand
> >>>>>>    next to a
> >>>>>>    product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
> >>>>>>    exploitative of
> >>>>>>    the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
> >>>>>>    reflective of us as a whole,
> >>>>>>    human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
> >>>>>>    culturally mandated,
> >>>>>>    but which extend from our being as animals who require
> >>>>>>    procreation and
> >>>>>>    survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
> >>>>>>    associating this
> >>>>>>    product with beautiful women.

> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets
> better.

> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:

> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
> >>>>>>>    discussions
> >>>>>>>    about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.

> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their value
> >>>>>>>    through
> >>>>>>>    their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
> >>>>>>>    as people.

> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who will
> go
> >>>>>>>    through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex is
> >>>>>>>    good,
> >>>>>>>    love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin
> through
> >>>>>>>    sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
> >>>>>>>    community is
> >>>>>>>    trash.

> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
> >>>>>>>    about me
> >>>>>>>    pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
> >>>>>>>    is one of
> >>>>>>>    the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
> >>>>>>>    girls do to
> >>>>>>>    get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
> >>>>>>>    Elizabeth who
> >>>>>>>    works tirelessly on Bitcoin.

> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    We have smart capable women in our community, so why are we
> >>>>>>>    promoting
> >>>>>>>    these dumb whores? Who the fuck are they? Plastic girls with big
> >>>>>>>    tits?
> >>>>>>>    Wow you're so cool. It reminds me of when the BF choose that
> young
> >>>>>>>    plastic pretty spokesgirl to represent them on TV who knew
> >>>>>>>    nothing about
> >>>>>>>    bitcoin. And those BitPay adverts who use the girl in pretty red
> >>>>>>>    lipstick to push their product. Why not promote a world based on
> >>>>>>>    love
> >>>>>>>    with relationships established based on mutual understanding,
> rather
> >>>>>>>    than promoting a world where men make money to fuck good looking
> >>>>>>>    young
> >>>>>>>    bitches. 90% of you will never be in that bracket either.

> >>>>>>>
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