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著者: Elizabeth Ploshay
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To: System undo crew
題目: Re: [unSYSTEM] Where are all the women in Bitcoin? Here they are!
Aimee,
Great points! Thank you for sharing!


*Elizabeth T. Ploshay*
elizabeth@???
Manager of Communications
Bitcoin Magazine
elizabethtploshay.com


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Aimee Maree <aimee@???> wrote:

> Love and agree with what you said Amir
>
> "We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone
> is complicit in some way"
>
> What your seeing is Asian culture at its worst for example when a lot of
> IT companies launch in Asia they will use manga characters with massive
> breasts etc as this is excepted in their culture. I don't like it nor agree
> that we should not question these things If we are to change etc but yep as
> someone from Asia Pacific seen it heaps.
>
> Also the link only shows women who are at companies etc not hackers or
> activists I dislike those things personally it's like woohoo we have some
> women.. But I understand it's need in today's current climate.
>
>
>
> On 30 Jan 2014, at 9:27 am, Elizabeth Ploshay <
> elizabeth@???> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> *Elizabeth T. Ploshay*
> elizabeth@???
> Manager of Communications
> Bitcoin Magazine
> elizabethtploshay.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Miller <amiller@???> wrote:
>
>> Here's a much better post, an infographic on "the women of Bitcoin",
>> hopefully this serves as an antidote:
>> https://cryptocointalk.com/blog/3/entry-79-updated-women-of-bitcoin/
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>> > We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
>> > complicit in some way.
>> >
>> > On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces people
>> >> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
>> >> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive? Would
>> >> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when we
>> >> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are responsible
>> >> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
>> >>
>> >> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>> >>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the world
>> as
>> >>> well.
>> >>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> +1
>> >>>>
>> >>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
>> >>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:elizabeth@bitcoinmagazine.com>
>> >>>> Manager of Communications
>> >>>> Bitcoin Magazine
>> >>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
>> >>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>     Rough day?
>> >>>>     He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
>> >>>>     paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.

>> >>>>
>> >>>>     https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753

>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>     On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <
>> iamtexture@???
>> >>>>     <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> >>>>
>> >>>>>     You lost me at the dumb whores part.
>> >>>>>     Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
>> >>>>>     expectations.
>> >>>>>     Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be able
>> >>>>>     to dress
>> >>>>>     however they like and still demand respect and love. That
>> >>>>>     includes American,
>> >>>>>     Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
>> >>>>>     These women
>> >>>>>     are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
>> >>>>>     just like
>> >>>>>     everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
>> >>>>>     universe,
>> >>>>>     unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
>> >>>>>     environment
>> >>>>>     they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
>> >>>>>     and the
>> >>>>>     mental state of those around them.

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
>> >>>>>     women.
>> >>>>>     A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to stand
>> >>>>>     next to a
>> >>>>>     product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
>> >>>>>     exploitative of
>> >>>>>     the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
>> >>>>>     reflective of us as a whole,
>> >>>>>     human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
>> >>>>>     culturally mandated,
>> >>>>>     but which extend from our being as animals who require
>> >>>>>     procreation and
>> >>>>>     survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
>> >>>>>     associating this
>> >>>>>     product with beautiful women.

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets
>> better.

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
>> >>>>>>     discussions
>> >>>>>>     about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their
>> value
>> >>>>>>     through
>> >>>>>>     their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
>> >>>>>>     as people.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who will
>> go
>> >>>>>>     through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex is
>> >>>>>>     good,
>> >>>>>>     love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin
>> through
>> >>>>>>     sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
>> >>>>>>     community is
>> >>>>>>     trash.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
>> >>>>>>     about me
>> >>>>>>     pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
>> >>>>>>     is one of
>> >>>>>>     the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
>> >>>>>>     girls do to
>> >>>>>>     get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
>> >>>>>>     Elizabeth who
>> >>>>>>     works tirelessly on Bitcoin.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     We have smart capable women in our community, so why are we
>> >>>>>>     promoting
>> >>>>>>     these dumb whores? Who the fuck are they? Plastic girls with
>> big
>> >>>>>>     tits?
>> >>>>>>     Wow you're so cool. It reminds me of when the BF choose that
>> young
>> >>>>>>     plastic pretty spokesgirl to represent them on TV who knew
>> >>>>>>     nothing about
>> >>>>>>     bitcoin. And those BitPay adverts who use the girl in pretty
>> red
>> >>>>>>     lipstick to push their product. Why not promote a world based
>> on
>> >>>>>>     love
>> >>>>>>     with relationships established based on mutual understanding,
>> rather
>> >>>>>>     than promoting a world where men make money to fuck good
>> looking
>> >>>>>>     young
>> >>>>>>     bitches. 90% of you will never be in that bracket either.

>> >>>>>>
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