> Reading through this now and on irc, might not reply straight away.
>
>
> On 15 January 2014 14:11, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> Robert, maybe you're interested to participate in this conversation:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/twister-users/cgxyB2oOQkk/Ov-MUUv3uG4J
>>
>> Also about the secret, it allows you to put a static address somewhere
>> and receive anonymous payments. It doesn't preclude treating the address
>> itself like a secret though and sending that over a special channel like
>> Twister uniquely to different participants. You don't have to send
>> everyone the same address.
>>
>> Together with those 3 schemes 1) Twister transmission 2) Stealth
>> addresses 3) CoinJoin, we have very strong financial privacy.
>>
>> Are you on IRC ever? I'm in Freenode #darkwallet. I've got some
>> questions if you're around in next few days for some minutes.
>>
>> On 15/01/14 13:19, Robert Williamson wrote:
>> > Ah this has all just clicked with me, using Diffie-Hellman to create a
>> > shared secret then using that to encrypt the nonce.
>> >
>> > This could also be used for generating a temporary/disposable aes key
>> > for encrypting messages between people.
>> >
>> > satoshi mentioned that storing data in the blockchain or anywhere
>> > publicly might be a bad idea as if you had your private key compromised
>> > then all the data would be revealed.
>> >
>> > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25.msg159#msg159 (post 10)
>> >
>> > Doing private messages/etc over twister or another distributed platform
>> > this is probably a good way to do it securely without having your key
>> > attached to every message that is sent.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 15 January 2014 12:33, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > some code: https://gist.github.com/jspilman/8396495
>> >
>> > On 15/01/14 03:57, Thomas Hartman wrote:
>> > > Awesome if true.
>> > >
>> > > On Jan 14, 2014 5:38 PM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???
>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>> > > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure that's true (asked Peter about it):
>> > >
>> > > <petertodd> stealth addresses are "I give you a chain code,
>> you
>> > > derive new
>> > > pubkeys with random 32-byte nonces, and then encrypt that
>> nonce in
>> > > the tx
>> > > itself so I can decrypt it and recover the funds"
>> > >
>> > > if so then combined with CoinJoin this is holy-grail, and we
>> don't
>> > > need to
>> > > worry about Twister/XMPP/BitMessage for transmitting secrets
>> > around.
>> > >
>> > > > So sad that you're fed up with me.
>> > > >
>> > > > This seems great for fairly anonymous payments.
>> > > >
>> > > > My only problem is if the deterministic offset n is encoded
>> > in the
>> > > paying
>> > > > transaction then anyone else you also gave that mpk to, will
>> > also
>> > > see the
>> > > > address.
>> > > >
>> > > > So I still really prefer some solution where payment
>> > addresses are
>> > > > contracted and signed by a key, for either a one off payment
>> > or a
>> > > sequence
>> > > > of payments over a period.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Bob
>> > > > On 14 Jan 2014 00:31, "Nicolás Mendoza"
>> > <nicolasmendo@??? <mailto:nicolasmendo@gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:nicolasmendo@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:nicolasmendo@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Thanks for using Drak in your example, I'm fed up with Bob
>> > and Alice
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Amir Taaki
>> > <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>> > > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> great, thanks for showing me this. I know the basic idea.
>> > The only
>> > > >>> thing
>> > > >>> I'd add is that once you know the nonce, that the payor
>> > doesn't
>> > > need to
>> > > >>> recreate these txs repeatedly. So when I pay Drak, I only
>> > need to do
>> > > >>> this the first ever time I pay Drak.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On 13/01/14 19:49, Drak wrote:
>> > > >>> > Have you guys seen this discussion on the bitcoin
>> > mailing list
>> > > (and
>> > > >>> now
>> > > >>> > there is a working
>> > > >>> > implementation):
>> > > >>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31813471
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> > Seems to be a major step forward in terms of privacy.
>> > Probably
>> > > needs
>> > > >>> a
>> > > >>> > few more technical eyes on it but it looks really
>> promising.
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> > Drak
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >
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>> > > >>
>> > > >> PhD Researcher
>> > > >> School of Creative Media
>> > > >> City University of Hong Kong
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