> Robert, maybe you're interested to participate in this conversation:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/twister-users/cgxyB2oOQkk/Ov-MUUv3uG4J
>
> Also about the secret, it allows you to put a static address somewhere
> and receive anonymous payments. It doesn't preclude treating the address
> itself like a secret though and sending that over a special channel like
> Twister uniquely to different participants. You don't have to send
> everyone the same address.
>
> Together with those 3 schemes 1) Twister transmission 2) Stealth
> addresses 3) CoinJoin, we have very strong financial privacy.
>
> Are you on IRC ever? I'm in Freenode #darkwallet. I've got some
> questions if you're around in next few days for some minutes.
>
> On 15/01/14 13:19, Robert Williamson wrote:
> > Ah this has all just clicked with me, using Diffie-Hellman to create a
> > shared secret then using that to encrypt the nonce.
> >
> > This could also be used for generating a temporary/disposable aes key
> > for encrypting messages between people.
> >
> > satoshi mentioned that storing data in the blockchain or anywhere
> > publicly might be a bad idea as if you had your private key compromised
> > then all the data would be revealed.
> >
> > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25.msg159#msg159 (post 10)
> >
> > Doing private messages/etc over twister or another distributed platform
> > this is probably a good way to do it securely without having your key
> > attached to every message that is sent.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15 January 2014 12:33, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
> >
> > some code: https://gist.github.com/jspilman/8396495
> >
> > On 15/01/14 03:57, Thomas Hartman wrote:
> > > Awesome if true.
> > >
> > > On Jan 14, 2014 5:38 PM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???
> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
> > > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure that's true (asked Peter about it):
> > >
> > > <petertodd> stealth addresses are "I give you a chain code, you
> > > derive new
> > > pubkeys with random 32-byte nonces, and then encrypt that
> nonce in
> > > the tx
> > > itself so I can decrypt it and recover the funds"
> > >
> > > if so then combined with CoinJoin this is holy-grail, and we
> don't
> > > need to
> > > worry about Twister/XMPP/BitMessage for transmitting secrets
> > around.
> > >
> > > > So sad that you're fed up with me.
> > > >
> > > > This seems great for fairly anonymous payments.
> > > >
> > > > My only problem is if the deterministic offset n is encoded
> > in the
> > > paying
> > > > transaction then anyone else you also gave that mpk to, will
> > also
> > > see the
> > > > address.
> > > >
> > > > So I still really prefer some solution where payment
> > addresses are
> > > > contracted and signed by a key, for either a one off payment
> > or a
> > > sequence
> > > > of payments over a period.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Bob
> > > > On 14 Jan 2014 00:31, "Nicolás Mendoza"
> > <nicolasmendo@??? <mailto:nicolasmendo@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:nicolasmendo@gmail.com
> > <mailto:nicolasmendo@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks for using Drak in your example, I'm fed up with Bob
> > and Alice
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Amir Taaki
> > <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
> > > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> great, thanks for showing me this. I know the basic idea.
> > The only
> > > >>> thing
> > > >>> I'd add is that once you know the nonce, that the payor
> > doesn't
> > > need to
> > > >>> recreate these txs repeatedly. So when I pay Drak, I only
> > need to do
> > > >>> this the first ever time I pay Drak.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 13/01/14 19:49, Drak wrote:
> > > >>> > Have you guys seen this discussion on the bitcoin
> > mailing list
> > > (and
> > > >>> now
> > > >>> > there is a working
> > > >>> > implementation):
> > > >>>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31813471
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Seems to be a major step forward in terms of privacy.
> > Probably
> > > needs
> > > >>> a
> > > >>> > few more technical eyes on it but it looks really
> promising.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Drak
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
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> > > >>
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