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Autore: Bedeho Mender
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To: System undo crew
Oggetto: Re: [unSYSTEM] life at valve: A Billion Dollar Company With No Bosses
Here is a relevant EconTalk episode with Valve economist talking about the
company culture

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/02/varoufakis_on_v.html


On 5 January 2014 16:55, Pablo Arriazu <pabloarriazu@???> wrote:

> I've said it's interesting and that it's worth reading the book, not that
> it's like a bible :D. Of course, valve is "a billion dollar company"
> because they have used creepy ways to "defend IP". I completly understand
> your possition.
>
> I have to accept that it's very difficult for me to agree with everything
> I read in any book or article, and I found quite interesting when this one
> speaks about horizontal and distributed management, and how developers have
> 100% of their time free to chose whatever they want to do, being able to
> self-organize to create projects without "bosses" or supervisors, just
> spontaneus commisions.
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> Besides, world is complex and changes in many ways and from many
> perspectives, and I see this one as just one of the ruptures of the old
> corporativism. In a similar way that I found interesting Mondragon
> Cooperative Corporation when I was younger -btw, it's not interesting at
> all-.
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> For me, it's quite funny that they speak about their control of their IP
> as if it were the "means of production" or something equivalent in
> empowerment.
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> El 05/01/14 13:53, Mike Gogulski escribió:
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> Hi Pablo. No, I stopped here:
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>     Valve owns its intellectual property. This is far from the
>     norm, in our industry or at most entertainment content-
>     producing companies. We didn’t always own it all. But
>     thanks to some legal wrangling with our first publisher
>     after Half-Life shipped, we now do. This has freed us to
>     make our own decisions about our products.

>
> I'm sure that it's all spiff to work there and stuff, but the fact that
> IP is mentioned /exactly once/ without any criticism at all in this
> corp-slave non-manifesto is enough to put me off my breakfast.
>
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> On 01/05/2014 12:04 PM, Pablo Arriazu wrote:
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> Have you read the "valve's handbook for new employers"?http://www.valvesoftware.com/company/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf
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> El 05/01/14 07:19, Mike Gogulski escribió:
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> How many IP lawyers do they employ?
>
> Well, that's true. And I'm sure this amazing working structure doesn't
> apply for cleaning people, maintenance guys, etc. But it deserves a
> reading.
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>
> btw, I'm Pablo and I've been a "lurker" for about three or four weeks
> and here I've found people that has very close perspectives to mine,
> so... hello!, I promise I will prepare a small introduction in other
> moment :D
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> On 01/04/2014 10:32 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
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> http://www.inc.com/samuel-wagreich/the-4-billion-company-with-no-bosses.html
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> “The most astonishing aspect of life at Valve is that there are no
> bosses,” said Varoufakis, an economist from the University of Athens with
> notable publications on the Euro Crisis. “It contains no explicit
> hierarchy. It’s based on what several members of the company have
> described to me as the principles of anarcho-syndicalism. Effectively,
> free association of employees with one another.”
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