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Auteur: Robert Williamson
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Aan: System undo crew
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] Jacob Applebaum @ CCC
Ah I understand you a bit better now. But there is still a limited amount
to gain for the NSA except the bucket loads of cash, which is still small
comparing to their budget. Unless the US has realised the game is up,
recognise bitcoin is the end of the current banking system and they're
trying to acquire as much as they can for the lowest price without alerting
anyone else. There would still have been easier ways to kill or dominate
bitcoin at that time though.

That video was great to watch, especially some of the hardware they had
built, intercepting electronics orders in the post and rigging them. People
like stallman have been talking about governments doing this for years, I
think its fortunate bitcoin has been able to grow for now without too much
interference from many governments.
On 2 Jan 2014 00:16, "Wendell" <w@???> wrote:

> Hey Bob,
>
> I'm not suggesting that Silk Road wasn't made by Ross Ulbricht. I'm
> suggesting that it could easily have been an NSA program. These are not the
> same. Ulbricht in this scenario is simply a patsy. Perhaps the NSA got what
> it needed and the political pressure was such that when it was time to go,
> it was time to go. So-called amateur hour does not necessarily indicate
> anything.
>
> Anyway, I'm digging further and further into "wild" speculation, so I'll
> probably end this here. Perhaps you are right, perhaps it is far-fetched.
> But on the other hand, every single thing I saw in that video yesterday is
> too. Except apparently, it's not.
>
> -wendell
>
> hivewallet.com | twitter.com/hivewallet | pgp: B7179FA88C498718
>
> On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Robert Williamson wrote:
>
> > Hi Wendell,
> >
> > I had trouble too believing that silk road was actually popular and that
> the guy behind it was living with housemates under a pseudonym. But
> needless to say what the NSA or another agency might be able to gain from
> crypto currencies, the government at least has much more to lose from the
> rise of a new global reserve currency.
> >
> > Fact is silk road was a shoddy site run by some average people,it had
> numerous vulnerabilities during its lifespan as have all the other deep web
> markets, usually web security basics like SQL injections or xsrf , or stuff
> like only checking g a user is logged in and not checking a user is allowed
> to access a resource. Its all pretty much lolphp amateur hour for many of
> these sites look up some of the leaked source for one of the darknet
> markets and you'll see.
> >
> > The evidence is a bit circumstantial its easy for any agency to
> fabricate private keys to illegally obtained funds/other illegal data on
> your machine and frame you for something. It just doubt that has happened
> in this case. If they had been running silk road since the start then it
> would be better for them to keep doing so for the profit.
> >
> > Bob
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