My first job as an intern in an academic setting, my coworker (who was
sysadmin) spied on his girlfriend's email and found out she was
cheating on him. This was unix/pine on a console, way before gmail.

That kind of power is simply intoxicating.

On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Stanislas Marion
<stanislas.marion@???> wrote:
> Still pretty sure they get nowhere near the work conditions or compensation
> they could have by working at top Silicon Valley companies. I think they're
> most likely brainwashed at some level that the work they're doing is good.
>
> --
> Stan
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>
> Not what Snowden said in his original Guardian interview. He said agents
> are paid well, get lots of time off and are treated nice. It's willful
> ignorance (turning a blind eye) or complicity (expressly being malicious
> by overdoing your job).
>
> On 01/01/14 15:06, Stanislas Marion wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? People who work at the NSA really believe in the
> work they're doing and aren't paid well at all. They could be paid 10x to
> make photos upload faster at Google or Facebook and they wanted.
>
> On 1 janv. 2014, at 11:52, Bruce Chastain <alfredchastain@???> wrote:
>
> I think I've seen somewhere that the NSA budget is somewhere over 10 billion
> usd a year, without that I don't think they would exist. Maybe a few would
> be able to use their skills to run shady business, but in large the
> organization itself would dissolve. When the people stop getting their pay
> checks, I don't think they'll keep coming in the office anymore. And I don't
> think 99.99% of the nsa as an org has the business chops to make it without
> straight up stealing money from the people. I'm not suggesting it's easy or
> even possible, I'm only saying that until it happens, I don't see any way of
> really "winning".
>
> That makes me think of the one small positive thing in this whole situation,
> we have the advantage that we are working because we really believe in what
> we are doing, 99% of the folks working over at the nsa, they just want a
> easy life with a fat pay check. If that pay drys up, their gone.
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