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Auteur: Thomas Hartman
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À: System undo crew
Sujet: Re: [unSYSTEM] Jacob Applebaum @ CCC
My first job as an intern in an academic setting, my coworker (who was
sysadmin) spied on his girlfriend's email and found out she was
cheating on him. This was unix/pine on a console, way before gmail.

That kind of power is simply intoxicating.

On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Stanislas Marion
<stanislas.marion@???> wrote:
> Still pretty sure they get nowhere near the work conditions or compensation
> they could have by working at top Silicon Valley companies. I think they're
> most likely brainwashed at some level that the work they're doing is good.
>
> --
> Stan
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>
> Not what Snowden said in his original Guardian interview. He said agents
> are paid well, get lots of time off and are treated nice. It's willful
> ignorance (turning a blind eye) or complicity (expressly being malicious
> by overdoing your job).
>
> On 01/01/14 15:06, Stanislas Marion wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? People who work at the NSA really believe in the
> work they're doing and aren't paid well at all. They could be paid 10x to
> make photos upload faster at Google or Facebook and they wanted.
>
> On 1 janv. 2014, at 11:52, Bruce Chastain <alfredchastain@???> wrote:
>
> I think I've seen somewhere that the NSA budget is somewhere over 10 billion
> usd a year, without that I don't think they would exist. Maybe a few would
> be able to use their skills to run shady business, but in large the
> organization itself would dissolve. When the people stop getting their pay
> checks, I don't think they'll keep coming in the office anymore. And I don't
> think 99.99% of the nsa as an org has the business chops to make it without
> straight up stealing money from the people. I'm not suggesting it's easy or
> even possible, I'm only saying that until it happens, I don't see any way of
> really "winning".
>
> That makes me think of the one small positive thing in this whole situation,
> we have the advantage that we are working because we really believe in what
> we are doing, 99% of the folks working over at the nsa, they just want a
> easy life with a fat pay check. If that pay drys up, their gone.
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