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Auteur: Stanislas Marion
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Aan: System undo crew
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] Jacob Applebaum @ CCC
Still pretty sure they get nowhere near the work conditions or compensation they could have by working at top Silicon Valley companies. I think they're most likely brainwashed at some level that the work they're doing is good.

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Stan


On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:

> Not what Snowden said in his original Guardian interview. He said agents
> are paid well, get lots of time off and are treated nice. It's willful
> ignorance (turning a blind eye) or complicity (expressly being malicious
> by overdoing your job).
>
> On 01/01/14 15:06, Stanislas Marion wrote:
> > What are you talking about? People who work at the NSA really believe in the work they're doing and aren't paid well at all. They could be paid 10x to make photos upload faster at Google or Facebook and they wanted.
> >
> > > On 1 janv. 2014, at 11:52, Bruce Chastain <alfredchastain@??? (mailto:alfredchastain@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I've seen somewhere that the NSA budget is somewhere over 10 billion usd a year, without that I don't think they would exist. Maybe a few would be able to use their skills to run shady business, but in large the organization itself would dissolve. When the people stop getting their pay checks, I don't think they'll keep coming in the office anymore. And I don't think 99.99% of the nsa as an org has the business chops to make it without straight up stealing money from the people. I'm not suggesting it's easy or even possible, I'm only saying that until it happens, I don't see any way of really "winning".
> > >
> > > That makes me think of the one small positive thing in this whole situation, we have the advantage that we are working because we really believe in what we are doing, 99% of the folks working over at the nsa, they just want a easy life with a fat pay check. If that pay drys up, their gone.
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