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Autore: Adam Gibson
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To: System undo crew
Oggetto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Jacob Applebaum @ CCC
There is an incomplete video of Sarah Harrison's talk too on youtube
now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG2EDgn5i78
Apparently it is not even safe for her to go back to the UK. What an
appalling country it's becoming, I don't want to go back there.
I think I'm going to go and live in Germany, it seems to be the
temporary home of the resistance :)

Happy new year to all on this list!

On 12/31/2013 06:22 PM, Drak wrote:
> Gobsmacked.
>
> The NSA has essentially baked themselves into the fabric of the
> internet. I was really amazed about 'diode' attack being "beat the
> speed of light" by being able to transmit a spoofed response faster
> than the requested website can, to the target.
>
> Our big concern should be the ability to modify internet traffic at
> scale with "deep packet injection" - especially downloads.
>
> E.g. bitcoin-qt is distributed over plain http at sourceforge.net.
> bitcoin.org is also http only so the links could be altered.
>
> Applebaum says that TLS is effective in blocking this attack.
>
> I think it's imperative we lobby all wallet providers to make their
> sites https only and to use download sources which are https. This
> would severely hampers large scale attacks.
>
> The NSA "Exploits Everywhere" campaign leaves the doors open to
> others who find the exploits (and they have been according to the
> video).
>
> Drak
>
>
>
>
> On 30 December 2013 22:19, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> Don't lose hope :) We're here 1 brick at a time. That you, I and
>> others are talking about a new reality is a start. People are
>> already buying drugs online. The small and powerful live off the
>> large and disenfranchised.
>>
>> On 30/12/13 22:15, Manfred Karrer wrote:
>>> Probably many of you have already seen that video of Jacob
>>> Applebaum at
>> the CCC:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA
>>>
>>> I was not so much suprised by many NSA activities we heard
>>> about in that
>> year, but that is really, really SHOCKING!
>>>
>>> That changes for me also the view I had about Bitcoins
>>> security. The NSA
>> can by 100% break the system if they want (they have 1000s of
>> attack vectors). I was not so sure about that before.
>>> So as we cannot fix all the technical weaknesses leading to
>>> this digital
>> 1984 nightmare in what we are living, we certainly need to fight
>> also on the political side.
>>> I was thinking before technology could just make old school
>>> politics or
>> power structures obsolete, but I am not so sure about that
>> anymore. They have created with the NSA a monster in the worst
>> sense of that word, and to beat them on the technological side
>> seems to me naive (after I saw that video).
>>>
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