I think the threat behind all this NSA spying is much more dangerous if you think of it as an attack scenario to the collective humanity rather then to an individuum.
There will be quantum computing (some say there are already some - in the TOR / NSA slides there has been mentioned quantum attacks) which will open a completely new dimension of computing.
Machine learning and artificial intelligence will become a powerful reality. So computing and data storage are not a problem anymore, what will be missing are the interfaces to the real world, to the human livings. And all that data getting collected now (NSA, "big data", google, facebook,...) could serve as an input to that. I think the individuum will not be the most interesting target, the collective human live is what they are spying on, and therefore statistical data of the masses is what they are collecting.
To feed these future quantum brains with data from human beeings will make them capable to make decisions which make sense to these human livings and manipulate them in completely other dimensions like we have today. Also we as the human beeings will make the physical world accessable for that digital realm.
We will get reduced to sensors of the real world for these computers.
And worse: That stuff is in secret control of some powerful people, the NSA.

Of course machine learning and artificial intelligence will come (far more powerful like whats possible today) and they need a kind of interface to the real world to be useful. But that process must be actively defined from the culture we want to live in.



Am 30.12.2013 um 23:19 schrieb Amir Taaki <genjix@???>:

> Don't lose hope :) We're here 1 brick at a time. That you, I and others
> are talking about a new reality is a start. People are already buying
> drugs online. The small and powerful live off the large and disenfranchised.
>
> On 30/12/13 22:15, Manfred Karrer wrote:
>> Probably many of you have already seen that video of Jacob Applebaum at the CCC:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA
>>
>> I was not so much suprised by many NSA activities we heard about in that year, but that is really, really SHOCKING!
>>
>> That changes for me also the view I had about Bitcoins security. The NSA can by 100% break the system if they want (they have 1000s of attack vectors). I was not so sure about that before.
>> So as we cannot fix all the technical weaknesses leading to this digital 1984 nightmare in what we are living, we certainly need to fight also on the political side.
>> I was thinking before technology could just make old school politics or power structures obsolete, but I am not so sure about that anymore. They have created with the NSA a monster in the worst sense of that word, and to beat them on the technological side seems to me naive (after I saw that video).
>>
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