I get the general flavour of what you're saying.

With the internet and bitcoin, I'm more arguing about what it can take
away than what it can bring. It takes away a huge imperative towards
centralisation which has always existed before.

Technology has been slowly doing this for hundreds of years (printing
press etc.). This is more a final crystallization of what went before,
or perhaps a quantum leap.

The direction of causation is basically always technology -> economic ->
politics and social structures.

Trying to create new social and political structures by an act of will
is not how it works. It's putting the cart before the horse. Just look
at history.

On 12/23/2013 08:42 PM, Thomas Hartman wrote:
> Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
>
> You don't have to storm palaces, you can form unions and collective
> bargain. Ask the german unions how this worked out for them. (Pretty
> well.)
>
> You can also lobby for politics thats support collective safety in the
> mode of the scandinavian countries, and pay your tax that makes this
> possible.
>
> There is no one size fits all or silver bullet for any of this.
>
> I guess my main point is that expecting bitcoin, or anything, to solve
> problems that involve trillions of dollars and thousands of years, is
> asking a bit much.
>
> The internet didn't give us flying cars and faster than light travel,
> and bitcoin isn't going to give us a cornucopia economy. Hard things
> take work.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???> wrote:
>>
>>> If you want to get a healthier gini coefficient (less inequality), there's
>>> no other way than what your ancestors did. Man up and plan to organize
>>> politically, a lot of it door to door and slow boat, and get your head
>>> around planning for decades.
>>
>> Except that never worked, as I pointed out in my reference to storming
>> winter palaces.
>>
>> Politics follows on from economic incentives.
>>
>> Political action without addressing the root causes of hierarchical
>> structures simply recreates the same structures with different people at
>> the top.
>>
>>
>>
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