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著者: Metatron YHVH
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To: System undo crew
題目: Re: [unSYSTEM] We were all children, don't lose hope :)
Is it possible to access a PC's processing power via Virtual processor to
remotely mine bitcoins?


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Thomas Hartman
<thomas@???>wrote:

> The legal issues are significant.
>
> The best way might be to partner with an existing and licensed brokerage.
>
> Off the radar pathways are to use contract for difference and escrow
> pools that somehow track the value of known assets... but it's hand
> wavey how to do that.
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Thomas Hartman
> <thomas@???> wrote:
> > Robert, have a look at mastercoin, bitshares, coloredcoin, the
> > asicminer on blockchain exchange (maybe vaporware), and vitalik's
> > etherium.
> >
> > There are many projects trying to do something like this, those are
> > just the ones I know best.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:
> >> I like that. I think we're Sisyphus and our only job is to keep pushing
> >> this big boulder further up the hill. There will be wars, there will be
> >> sneaky bankers, but every step up the hill is well earned.
> >>
> >> I think that we're constantly taking steps in the right direction when
> we
> >> increase the availability of technology and increase our capabilities.
> >> Making bitcoin safe and a secure payment method is a logical next step.
> >> However, for it to be able to really compete with other currencies we
> need
> >> something unique to bitcoin. Besides the functionality of bitcoin, I
> mean.
> >>
> >> I'm sure this is not a new idea, but is anyone working on an
> international
> >> stock market using only crypto-currencies? That would be something
> that no
> >> dollar based markets could offer. A market where anyone could invest
> in any
> >> company in the world without having to worry about exchange rates or
> market
> >> rules of a certain country and it could run 24-hours a day. Basically,
> how
> >> bitcoin markets already operate. The best part is any company can
> >> participate not just the ones that government deems legitimate. Meaning
> >> people could invest in Torrent Freak, The Pirate Bay, MegaUpload, maybe
> even
> >> the Silk Road. It would be what a real libertarian free market is
> supposed
> >> to be.
> >>
> >> I can only assume it would very difficult to implement within the US.
> Does
> >> anyone know what kind of legal issues you might run into there?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Brant Powner <brant359@???>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well said!
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: epsylon <epsylon@???>
> >>> To: Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
> >>> Cc: System undo crew <unsystem@???>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 1:08 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] We were all children, don't lose hope :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Really nice introspective text, Amir. Thnks and keep the music
> >>> playing!! ;-)
> >>>
> >>> On 22/12/13 21:59, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>> > Life is tough, and sometimes the odds can seem so overwhelming
> >>> > that we can look around us and conclude nothing will change.
> >>> >
> >>> > But against the backdrop of small voices being shouted down by
> >>> > authoritative professionals in charge, like kids we are challenged
> >>> > by problems everywhere. Is your way better? How will it pay for
> >>> > hospitals or how do XYZ? Nobody has all the solutions. Those who
> >>> > claim to, are faking it like lying on a job interview.
> >>> >
> >>> > The real change won't happen by having a full vision laid out, or
> >>> > total consensus among everybody. The communists sold a perfect
> >>> > utopia, and then came the killings and murders because that utopia
> >>> > is perfect and one small loss today is nothing for one big gain
> >>> > tomorrow.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sometimes we grow up full of hope, then along the way with all the
> >>> > trajedies and hopelessness in the news conclude that we're all
> >>> > doomed. On a big sinking ship that we will go down together. In
> >>> > our youth we maybe become full of optimism and then along the way,
> >>> > start to worry for the future and all the risks / problems if
> >>> > things don't turn out well.
> >>> >
> >>> > Some of us meet a girl/boy different from all the others, able to
> >>> > feel us on a deep level, and support you as a strong friend. Full
> >>> > of passion, your minds become one and the outside world starts to
> >>> > close off around you. We depart from our responsibilities because
> >>> > of the girl.
> >>> >
> >>> > I want to say that no matter how tempting it seems to retire from
> >>> > a life of swimming upstream, it is and always will be a false
> >>> > reality. We need every person to be free. Together we can do a
> >>> > lot. Each individual is more strong they realise. But I see it all
> >>> > the time. People telling me we have no power. My goal in life is
> >>> > to show people that we are incredibly powerful.
> >>> >
> >>> > Don't think either that by doing nothing, you are not causing harm.
> >>> > Everyday we shop at supermarkets, buy from tobacco companies, use
> >>> > Apple/Google/Facebook/... products, wear clothes from sweatshop
> >>> > labour, big banks, big pharma, watch hollywood movies, pay rent
> >>> > money to landlords, support telecoms companies censoring the net,
> >>> > eat McDonalds, ... Every action taken is creating more work for
> >>> > someone elsewhere trying to undo your harm. Just ignoring the
> >>> > problems is making your life worse, and perpetuating the
> >>> > injustices.
> >>> >
> >>> > Bitcoin is not going to bring equality to the world. If anything
> >>> > it will bring *more* inequality. But Bitcoin will bring justice
> >>> > and merit. It's not about whether unregulated markets blindly
> >>> > perform better than 'normal' ones. It's about the tool of power
> >>> > that we can use to effect the changes we want to see. And it's a
> >>> > very important tool. The economic system is unsustainable, and
> >>> > Bitcoin will simply hasten the crisis. We gave adequate precaution.
> >>> > If through all this time, with all the global protests, worrying
> >>> > destruction of our ecology, mismanagement and wars by governments
> >>> > and a growing rise of fascist tendencies through the world... if
> >>> > throughout all this, you stuck your fingers in your ears and kept
> >>> > doing the same, repeatedly banging your head against the wall, then
> >>> > so be it. That's everything wrong in this world.
> >>> >
> >>> > If however, we start taking the steps now, we will have a future.
> >>> > Our friends and children will have a nice niche carved out in the
> >>> > future of tomorrow. Who knows, maybe that niche will grow, survive
> >>> > and thrive.
> >>> >
> >>> > The world is not fixed. Society has short periods of intense flux,
> >>> > followed by stagnation. A new wave of thought driven by internet
> >>> > is rising. With the internet we can now read the bible of
> >>> > democracy, its words no longer obscured by political-latin. And
> >>> > what we see before us, is not what we were told. The things are
> >>> > changing ever faster, and we are rapidly approaching a point of no
> >>> > return. If we don't prepare for the future, then we have no
> >>> > future.
> >>> >
> >>> > And the change? That will come from outside. Start looking around
> >>> > you. Your supporters are around you.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
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