>> > >         I just talked with Nejc from BitStamp and he says they
>> > >         didn't had any problems with incoming deposits. Maybe it's
>> > >         BS or not -that- bad.

>> > >         Cheers,

>> > >         Mihai

>> > >         On 22/11/13 21:05, Robert Williamson wrote:

>> > >         > and TransferGo
>> > >         >

>> > >         >
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/1r7lek/banks_block_sepa_transfers_to_bitstamp/

>> > >         >

>> > >         >

>> > >         >

>> > >         >
>> > >         > On 22 November 2013 20:00, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???>
>> wrote:

>> > >         >

>> > >         >
>> > >         > > Events are accelerating....

>> > >         > >
>> http://www.coindesk.com/dutch-bank-rabobank-blocks-bitcoin/  The most
>> > >         > > blatant example I've seen yet. Blocking ALL attempts to
>> fund at BTC
>> > >         > > exchanges, if I read it right.

>> > >         > >

>> > >         > >
>> > >         > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Adam Gibson <
>> ekaggata@???> wrote:

>> > >         > >

>> > >         > >
>> > >         > > > Thanks for the responses. We'll be in Milan on the 2nd
>> December. Looking
>> > >         > > > forward to it.
>> > >         > > > I just opened reddit and saw this, another example of
>> the problems
>> > >         > > > William describes (by the way, btc-e is not really new
>> William!):

>> > >         > > >
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/1r7lek/banks_block_sepa_transfers_to_bitstamp/
>> > >         > > > We want people to be able to do peer to peer bank
>> transfer with the
>> > >         > > > possibility of proving they've done it, thus enabling
>> trust.

>> > >         > > >
>> > >         > > > Our coding isn't finished; so far we've focused on that
>> proof aspect,
>> > >         > > > that part is finished and being tested with real bank
>> examples (although
>> > >         > > > far too few - if anyone wants to volunteer to try it,
>> look at the
>> > >         > > > instructions in my previous message),also we've got
>> multisig code ready for
>> > >         > > > the escrow of btc. The messaging part isn't finished.
>> There's also the
>> > >         > > > possibility of integration with OpenTransactions which
>> dansmith is actively
>> > >         > > > looking at right now.

>> > >         > > >

>> > >         > > >
>> > >         > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM, William Patterson <
>> wpatterson1@???

>> > >         > > >
>> > >         > > > > wrote:

>> > >         > > > >

>> > >         > > >
>> > >         > > > > I also agree with Mathias, and have found a new
>> > >         > > > > project called BTC-E at https://btc-e.com/

>> > >         > > > >

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > >  where you can buy BTC as well as other digitals for
>> > >         > > > > much less than at Localbitcoins.  But the achilles
>> heel is still getting
>> > >         > > > > funds into the project.  Us guys here in the USA are
>> shut out from nearly
>> > >         > > > > all the e-currency exchangers by our oppressive
>> over-reaching all-spying
>> > >         > > > > government!  Yea to anarchists like Amir Taaki and
>> Cody Wilson, et al.
>> > >         > > > > Viva Liberitad!

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Thanks for listening,
>> > >         > > > > Bill

>> > >         > > > >

>> > >         > > > >

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > From: Mihai Alisie

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Sent: 11/21/13 09:26 PM

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > To: System undo crew

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Transferring btc-fiat using
>> ssl logging and
>> > >         > > > > oracles

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > I agree with Mathias. Also looking forward to hearing
>> more about your
>> > >         > > > > project.

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Cheers,
>> > >         > > > > Mihai
>> > >         > > > > On 22/11/13 03:22, Mathias Groennebaek wrote:

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Your project sounds very promising, exchanges are the
>> achilles heel of
>> > >         > > > > bitcoin, and in many cases the people who are most
>> likely to pursue
>> > >         > > > > regulatory compliance are people who run exchanges.

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Localbitcoins is a good project, but it lacks ease of
>> use. Which is key.

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Would be interresting to hear more about.

>> > >         > > > >

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Adam Gibson <
>> ekaggata@???> <ekaggata@???> wrote:

>> > >         > > > >

>> > >         > > > >
>> > >         > > > > Myself and dansmith on the BTC talk forum have been
>> developing a system
>> > >         > > > > for allowing people to buy BTC via bank accounts,OK
>> Pay and others without
>> > >         > > > > the need for trusting a third party, by making a
>> verifiable record of the
>> > >         > > > > ssl session, and using 2 of 3 multisig for dispute
>> resolution. The project
>> > >         > > > > is described in brief here:
>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326233.msg3499434#msg3499434
>> > >         > > > > and we already have "oracle" machines running for
>> > >         > > > > testing. Code is at
>> > >         > > > > https://github.com/themighty1/ssllog and other
>> > >         > > > > places. Detailed technical descriptions aren't
>> > >         > > > > really set up but you can see the (completely
>> > >         > > > > rambling) development in

>> > >         > > > >
>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173220.msg3429555#msg3429555.
>> Would people be interested in our coming to Milan to discuss it? I realise
>> (well I think I do) that the meetup/conference is not mostly about this
>> kind of thing, but I just thought there might be some interest.
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