> of course bitstamp won't see the blocked payments. Intersango didn't see
> them either. We would just get many complaints from customers.
>
> On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 07:55 -0800, Paul Buitink wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> >
> > I run Dutch language debitcoin.org together with Tuur Demeester and
> > hundreds of payments have been blocked in Holland, made to bitonic.nl
> > and btcdirect.nl. It happened to my father too.
> >
> >
> > In this Dutch interview I had with the CEO of btcdirect.nl it was
> > confirmed by him:
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIkwUJgz4Q
> >
> >
> > It primarily relates to Rabobank and ING. Some customers apparently
> > even heard that the Rabobank said Bitcoin payments didn't adhere to
> > their ethical standards. I guess some customer reps didn't stick to
> > the script. Libor anyone?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul Buitink
> >
> > paulbuitink@???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Adam Gibson wrote:
> >
> > > OK, but there were two independent confirmations in the comments to
> > > the coindesk article; that's what I thought was significant.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Mihai Alisie
> > > <mihai@???> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I just talked with Nejc from BitStamp and he says they
> > > didn't had any problems with incoming deposits. Maybe it's
> > > BS or not -that- bad.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Mihai
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22/11/13 21:05, Robert Williamson wrote:
> > >
> > > > and TransferGo
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/1r7lek/banks_block_sepa_transfers_to_bitstamp/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 22 November 2013 20:00, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Events are accelerating....
> > > > >
> http://www.coindesk.com/dutch-bank-rabobank-blocks-bitcoin/ The most
> > > > > blatant example I've seen yet. Blocking ALL attempts to
> fund at BTC
> > > > > exchanges, if I read it right.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Adam Gibson <
> ekaggata@???> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the responses. We'll be in Milan on the 2nd
> December. Looking
> > > > > > forward to it.
> > > > > > I just opened reddit and saw this, another example of
> the problems
> > > > > > William describes (by the way, btc-e is not really new
> William!):
> > > > > >
> http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/1r7lek/banks_block_sepa_transfers_to_bitstamp/
> > > > > > We want people to be able to do peer to peer bank
> transfer with the
> > > > > > possibility of proving they've done it, thus enabling
> trust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our coding isn't finished; so far we've focused on that
> proof aspect,
> > > > > > that part is finished and being tested with real bank
> examples (although
> > > > > > far too few - if anyone wants to volunteer to try it,
> look at the
> > > > > > instructions in my previous message),also we've got
> multisig code ready for
> > > > > > the escrow of btc. The messaging part isn't finished.
> There's also the
> > > > > > possibility of integration with OpenTransactions which
> dansmith is actively
> > > > > > looking at right now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM, William Patterson <
> wpatterson1@???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also agree with Mathias, and have found a new
> > > > > > > project called BTC-E at https://btc-e.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > where you can buy BTC as well as other digitals for
> > > > > > > much less than at Localbitcoins. But the achilles
> heel is still getting
> > > > > > > funds into the project. Us guys here in the USA are
> shut out from nearly
> > > > > > > all the e-currency exchangers by our oppressive
> over-reaching all-spying
> > > > > > > government! Yea to anarchists like Amir Taaki and
> Cody Wilson, et al.
> > > > > > > Viva Liberitad!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for listening,
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Mihai Alisie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: 11/21/13 09:26 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: System undo crew
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Transferring btc-fiat using
> ssl logging and
> > > > > > > oracles
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree with Mathias. Also looking forward to hearing
> more about your
> > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Mihai
> > > > > > > On 22/11/13 03:22, Mathias Groennebaek wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your project sounds very promising, exchanges are the
> achilles heel of
> > > > > > > bitcoin, and in many cases the people who are most
> likely to pursue
> > > > > > > regulatory compliance are people who run exchanges.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Localbitcoins is a good project, but it lacks ease of
> use. Which is key.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would be interresting to hear more about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Adam Gibson <
> ekaggata@???> <ekaggata@???> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Myself and dansmith on the BTC talk forum have been
> developing a system
> > > > > > > for allowing people to buy BTC via bank accounts,OK
> Pay and others without
> > > > > > > the need for trusting a third party, by making a
> verifiable record of the
> > > > > > > ssl session, and using 2 of 3 multisig for dispute
> resolution. The project
> > > > > > > is described in brief here:
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326233.msg3499434#msg3499434
> > > > > > > and we already have "oracle" machines running for
> > > > > > > testing. Code is at
> > > > > > > https://github.com/themighty1/ssllog and other
> > > > > > > places. Detailed technical descriptions aren't
> > > > > > > really set up but you can see the (completely
> > > > > > > rambling) development in
> > > > > > >
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173220.msg3429555#msg3429555.
> Would people be interested in our coming to Milan to discuss it? I realise
> (well I think I do) that the meetup/conference is not mostly about this
> kind of thing, but I just thought there might be some interest.
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