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Autor: caedes
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To: System undo crew
Betreff: Re: [unSYSTEM] Political Apathy
About voting...

You vote with your money, forget about the ballots.

When you buy from evil corporations, you're voting for them. How much
are you voting them (top of the pyramid)? and how much are you voting
your friends (bottom of the pyramid)?

And then, come the mathematics of Un-Growth. Less money, less power. Use
the money to build infrastructure so you will need less and less, build
a real economy that provides the basics, health, housing, food. Build a
future you believe in... don't want to extend too much into that right
now, I think Amir already did it.

It's ok to vote and do it if so pleases you, but always remember, real
voting is going on each day when you're paying for stuff. That's
democracy "2.0" and it's been going for a long time.

Now we will build a new system with much better promises than the old
one... talking to most friends who trusted "the system", I don't think
old promises can hold any longer no matter who you vote. Our promises
become fullfilled and grow exponentially at the same time we ungrow
exponentially too. New democracy is being built bottom-up and won't be
about control... will be about conscience.

Just by simple mathematics... I think we can be sure, we will win in the
ballots when the game is already over.

kisses!!!





On 19/11/13 00:47, Mevan Babakar wrote:
> So my job is to get people who don't give a shit about democracy to
> get involved in it. And for the longest time I've been arguing that
> sure you can say that you can tear it down and put up something new,
> but really thats often juvenile and not thought through, if you want
> to change something you have to get your hands dirty and get involved
> in the fundamental values and systems that govern it.
>
> The only other person I have heard made this argument in the media is
> Peter Sunde:
>
> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-11/18/peter-sunde-hemlis-political-apathy
>
>
> I am now obviously smitten. What do you guys think? Is there anything
> really more valuable than a vote? Or is a vote worthless? c.f. Brand
> vs Paxman
>
> A lot of people make the arugment "voting is worthless because the
> people you elect are all the same, the system is always the same" so
> they don't get involved. But then how do you change that without
> getting involved? Standing for the people who aren't being
> represented? It's not an exclusive club. Its a malleable system that
> you can help /shape. /Is this a lost cause?
> /
> /
> These are my thoughts. I would appreciate yours.
>
>
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