This has me rather scared. IMO the chance of this being a false flag to
smear the Bitcoin community is nontrivial and if it takes off, this is
just the kind of thing which will make nighttime roundups and
disappearances seem somewhat reasonable in the mind of Grandma Voter.

The flip side of this terror is paramilitary application to make
political dissidents disappear or censor themselves by way of very
credible death threats.

TOR makes anonymous speech possible and Bitcoin makes speech and action
synonymous. The result is not anarchism, the result is Chaos, and from
the Chaos, Order.

Maybe things could be helped by a show of intolerance toward this,
perhaps something like a patch which rejects transactions emitting from
TOR nodes? It doesn't have to be 100% effective, just something to say
that this is not what we are about.


Thanks,
Caleb


On 11/19/2013 01:14 PM, Jaromil wrote:
>
> hi Mike,
>
> thanks for the historical pointers, I'm well aware of this theme but
> never bothered to compile a little overview as you did.
>
> my analysis is that this new iteration can revamp the strategy of
> tension in the western world, of course with disastrous political
> consequences. a relevant mutation for a new SoT being that political
> ideologies are not playing a central role anymore for this strategy,
> since the Crusade war against Islam is worn out and since cold war is
> over for real and there are no apparent nor substantial treats coming
> from that side. I just wonder if in this setup then the big capital
> would be the enemy? I guess not, a new one would need to be constructed
> and could be, right here.
>
> while i sincerely hope to be wrong, and those websites to be jokes, this
> feels like a painfully plausible analysis and there are many
> high-profile criminals ruling various governments that could benefit
> right now from a new SoT.
>
> ciao
>
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Mike Gogulski wrote:
>
>> Whether one thinks they suck or not, Bitcoin has been a key enabler for
>> assassination markets since its inception. It's been my argument for
>> some time that, like it or not, they may become inevitable.
>>
>> For anyone interested:
>>
>> The now-classic "Assassination Politics" essays from the mid-90s, by Jim
>> Bell:
>>
>> http://cryptome.org/ap.htm
>>
>> Here's some 10-year-old discussion pro and con, from anti-state.com.
>> Note that the philosophical backdrop of some here is predominantly
>> American anarcho-capitalism, with all of its vulgar libertarian tendencies.
>>
>> http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=262
>>
>> http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=265
>>
>> http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=266
>>
>> http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=289
>>
>> http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=295
>>
>> And a brief, pre-Bitcoin-awareness treatment of the topic from the
>> Center for a Stateless Society (left-libertarian market anarchist):
>>
>> http://c4ss.org/content/1157
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/18/2013 10:59 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>> don't joke about such crap. these markets suck.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 15:47 +0000, jindq1 wrote:
>>>> Amir, is this your site? :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jonathan James Harrison
>>>> <jonathanjamesharrison@???> wrote:
>>>>         http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/18/meet-the-assassination-market-creator-whos-crowdfunding-murder-with-bitcoins/

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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