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Autor: Mathias Groennebaek
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Oh shit here it is......Assassination Markets
Have been an active member of PP for years here in Denmark, but there is a
strict hierarchical structure, and we failed making the party adopt any new
policies. Furthermore the party leader refused to let us set up a new
website, i am almost starting to believe he's bribed by someone...
Anyways...
So earlier this year i co-founded a new party with a few other PP members.
All of the politics in the party is crowdsourced, and when the platform is
done it should be more or less autonomous. By the logic of; no need for any
moderators, no human interaction, no fraud.


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:

> agree, PP should be pushing this as their main agenda.
>
> also i think it's important we start thinking of the new financial tools
> that will be needed for creating our future world. not only the
> possibilities but concrete steps we can begin taking to implement this
> stuff.
>
> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 01:00 +0100, Mathias Groennebaek wrote:
> > I like the idea of API's, Autonomous agents, and multiagent systems,
> > technology in that sector holds the promise to remove entire sectors
> > of human labor force. Autonomous revolution might be the new
> > industrial revolution.
> >
> >
> > The pirate party pushes liquid democracy, but they dont take it far
> > enough. Same as with their politics i guess, too much focus on
> > copyright, surveilance and patents, too little on the issue of freedom
> > in our society in general. Including the topics they talk about, which
> > is only a small part of the bigger picture. Bitcoin is helping to
> > solve parts of it, at least after Dark Wallet is finished.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
> > wrote:
> >         liquid democracy is a very good initiative. I also like the
> >         efforts to
> >         make APIs in government. Both of these are being pushed by the
> >         pirate
> >         party.

> >
> >         Also if we can make a tool to manage bitcoins cooperatively
> >         and create
> >         cooperatives for different purposes, then in the beginning you
> >         would
> >         have people forming these voluntary organisations.

> >
> >         But then also robots could become treasurers too. The code for
> >         the
> >         robots is opensource so the contract is code (maybe it checks
> >         APIs on
> >         the web or monitors certain things). In the beginning maybe
> >         the robots
> >         would work with humans but as we improve we can automate more
> >         and make
> >         some organisations run entirely by robots.

> >
> >         The motivation to improve these robots is to provide better
> >         services for
> >         people (following Asimov's first law) and people give the
> >         robots
> >         resources based on these principles.

> >
> >         I think this is the first working DACs we can put into
> >         practice. As a
> >         financial tool it's a very powerful virus we can wield to self
> >         manage
> >         and grow a certain idea we code into it.

> >
> >         On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 23:15 +0100, Mathias Groennebaek wrote:
> >         > I suggest liquid democracy. Seems like a solid and fair way
> >         to make
> >         > decisions.
> >         > Video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0_Vhldz-8
> >         >
> >         > Already working on a platform based on joomla for easy
> >         distribution.

> >         >
> >         > Apart from being an obvious scam, he claims his motives are
> >         to.

> >         >

> >         >
> >         >         enable the assassinations of enough politicians that
> >         no one
> >         >         would dare to hold office

> >         >

> >         >
> >         > All this will do is increase the security during and once
> >         someone
> >         > leaves office, thus increasing the budget for such programs.

> >         >

> >         >
> >         > What we need to do is build tools to make government
> >         irrelevant. Not
> >         > stupid fake threats such as these.

> >         >

> >         >
> >         > On 18 November 2013 21:59, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
> >         wrote:
> >         >         don't joke about such crap. these markets suck.

> >         >
> >         >         On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 15:47 +0000, jindq1 wrote:
> >         >         > Amir, is this your site? :D

> >         >         >

> >         >         >

> >         >         >
> >         >         > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jonathan James
> >         Harrison
> >         >         > <jonathanjamesharrison@???> wrote:

> >         >         >

> >         >

> >
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/18/meet-the-assassination-market-creator-whos-crowdfunding-murder-with-bitcoins/
> >         >         >

> >         >         >

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