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Szerző: Benjamin Cordes
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Címzett: Luke-Jr
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Tárgy: Re: [unSYSTEM] fuck the bitcoin core team
And if bitcoin talk is such a mess, how to set up communication channels
which are less noisy, but democratic? Mailing lists are not very
structured. A new type of message board would be good, i.e. some tech from
this millennium...


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Benjamin Cordes <
benjamin.l.cordes@???> wrote:

> the above really belongs in my thread about laws and political systems. To
> keep on this very important point of "authoritarian rule of the devs" - how
> are devs accountable? I don't see it. If only 50 people can understand, but
> 10^6 - 10^9 people use it, how to define accountability?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Benjamin Cordes <
> benjamin.l.cordes@???> wrote:
>
>> One thing most will assume that is constant is the infrastructure of a
>> git repo + SSH. I think there could be different models. As soon as one
>> sees that the question is how one could define properties of the software
>> and have different change models. SSH means somebody (or a group) has a
>> key, where the first creator of the repo has ultimate authority in that he
>> defines he will get the key. The authority to change code is all inclusive.
>> However, instead one could have a kind of genesis block type model, where
>> the initial code in the repo is preserved for all changes thereafter. This
>> would mean that some changes would be impossible, or would be impossible
>> without "consent". This kind of model would make sense for any future
>> crypto currency which learns from bitcoin. By this mechanism the useres of
>> the network will know that some changes will be impossible (or would
>> require a kind of hack).
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Luke-Jr <luke@???> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:10:29 PM Benjamin Cordes wrote:
>>> > In a sense, general public == troll. Which is one problem with
>>> democracy.
>>> > The eternal Plato suggested a regime of smart people, called the
>>> lovers of
>>> > wisdom, the philosophers, to rule the world in a selfless and good way.
>>> > Karl Popper pointed out, this is the path to dictatorship,
>>>
>>> Democracy leads to dictatorship much faster than monarchy or other forms
>>> of
>>> government.
>>>
>>> > and instead said we should have a open society, where the rulers can
>>> always
>>> > be removed without a war.
>>>
>>> You "remove" rulers by moving to another State. The problem comes when
>>> they
>>> get too big and there are no more options (like now)... The USA sucks,
>>> and I'd
>>> like to move away, but there's nowhere better to go :(
>>>
>>> > Can users of bitcoin replace bitcoin devs with new devs?
>>>
>>> Yes, they switch to software maintained by the new devs.
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>
>>
>>
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