On Paul Graham's disagreement hierarchy this ranks somewhere between
DH0-DH3, but DH6 is much preferable.
http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html

I assume here is one major disagreement, quote from Gavin:
"But I see advocating for Bitcoin as separate from advocating for financial
privacy/freedom in general."

I have come to the conclusion that Bitcoin can not be neutral, but rather
separating these two goals (usefulness and political cause whatever it may
be), means pursuing a certain type of system. So I have arrived at the
idea, that the principle, the goal of the system, will have to be built
into it, right from the beginning. Basically a bit like GPL, where the
license achieves a lock-in. GPL is less free than MIT, because it restricts
users to building free software, with freedom defined by GPL.


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Mike Gogulski <mike@???> wrote:

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> Sorry for any formatting chaos. Just posted this at:
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> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322328.msg3466752#msg3466752
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> Enjoy my bile!
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> Quote from: Mike Hearn on November 02, 2013, 02:43:14 PM<https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322328.msg3463519#msg3463519>
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> I don't think Amir will actually do that though, because that might
> suggest that maybe Gavin and Mike aren't idiots who work for the Illuminati.
> ----
>
> For the record, I don't think that Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen are
> idiots who work for the Illuminati.
>
> Clearly, they are both intelligent people. They could not *possibly* have
> achieved what they have while being idiots.
>
> However, I do declare, Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen, that you seem to be
> complete assholes. And while I won't point at the Illuminati (I am, after
> all, a card-carrying member for a quarter of your pathetic human
> centuries), I will say this: Hearn and Andresen, you behave like
> dyed-in-the-wool statists who either:
>
> a) HATE the idea of taking ANY personal risk to fight the evil fucks who
> presently own the planet, meaning you're fucking cowards (grow a pair); OR
>
> b) are completely UNCONSCIOUS of the fact that evil who fucks presently
> own the planet, meaning you're INEDUCABLY IGNORANT of matters you've long
> been exposed to in the Bitcoin milieu (wake up and take a lesson,
> Stockholm-syndrome-affected dumbasses); OR
>
> c) are IN BED with the evil fucks who presently own the planet, in which
> you are traitors to humanity (die screaming, on fire, alone, each in your
> own separate hole); OR
>
> d) want to BECOME one of the evil fucks who presently own the planet
> (ditto).
>
> I'll leave it to the sycophantic fanentity audience to choose among the
> three or... wait for it... scream blue murder at me for uttering
> uncomfortable truths.
>
> Now, I don't mean to say that the two of you go around crushing kittens or
> such, but look:
>
> - You two CONSTANTLY harp on Amir's fuckup with Bitcoinica. Amir DID fuck
> up there, bigtime. You seem incapable of entertaining the notion that he
> learned anything from that, or that it was an honest mistake rather than
> willful negligence or malice, and you seem to act, therefore, like anything
> Amir says or is involved with is a pool of liquid shit with anthrax and
> ricin sprinkles on top.
>
> - Gavin's BOMBASTIC IGNORANT DUMBSHITTERY of historical context in writing<https://plus.google.com/+DeclanMcCullagh/posts/YLe37k7vonQ>(Google+, 20 May 2013):
>
> Quote from: Gavin Andresen
> ----
> We're never going to agree on tactics. I'm a pragmatist, so if putting
> star patches on my air guitar gives the people in power warm fuzzies, I'm
> happy to do it. I'll ask them exactly what type of star they'd like me to
> use and exactly where they'd like me to apply it, and while they were busy
> figuring that out I'll be busy working hard to get a few million more air
> guitar users.
>
> Being a majority protects people from assaults.
> ----
>
> (...because that worked so well in Warsaw, Godwinbergheimgrad, etc.)
>
> - You tolerate a dangerous,
> rather-much-extremely-more-extremely-more-mentally-ill-than-Amir-or-me
> beast like luke-jr
>
> - You continuously promote a "profit over people" line of thinking
>
> - and on and on.
>
> So, get fucked, the both of you. Take Garzik and luke-monster with you.
> You will be superseded, and your control lost as tears in falling rain.
>
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