A side note:
the foundation is running that below article about Dark Wallet on their social media.

TW.


On 1 Nov 2013, at 2:43 pm, Tristan Winters <tristan_winters@???> wrote:

> They are referring to this: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
>
> The foundation did not get 9 million dollars.
> But as soon as the above company got VC backed, they became a “Gold Member” of the foundation.
> And the foundation got a large number of Bitcoins in that way.
>
> Anyway, this has clearly touched a nerve in the community. The crowd-funding 24hr response shows that.
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2013, at 2:25 pm, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> this article is head in the clouds laa dee da that does not fit the reality.
>>
>> first of all bitcoin foundation should not be involved in development of
>> bitcoin if that are interacting with the state. that means not paying
>> salaries to people who exert undue influence over the protocol.
>>
>> if they choose to continue to be involved with bitcoin development then
>> they should also support dark wallet, electrum, and hive (which are now
>> combining as one project pooling our efforts).
>>
>> if they want to be involved in development, then the role should be in
>> establishing a neutral space (which i have not seen be done and have no
>> confidence will be done). i want to see more stick. I've seen some cliquey
>> and sneaky behaviour coming from bitcoind devs. multiple instances of
>> top-down commands (evoking that power when not neccessary) or shutting
>> down debate over contentious issues.
>>
>> twice i contacted the foundation over issues where I was being unfairly
>> placed at a disadvantage as a dev because of office politics (being taken
>> off mailing lists .etc) but they refused to intervene. they are paying
>> salaries of devs. I would have words if someone I was working with was
>> acting like a cunt.
>>
>> I told this to elizabeth already, and she's a force for good working on
>> bitcoin with pure motives.
>>
>> from a journalist friend of ours. he sent me this yesterday:
>>
>>> Just got a call from the bitcoin foundation. They wouldn't go on the
>>> record to comment on the article but just kept telling me "off the
>>> record" that you lot have no credibility and that a much better story is
>>> some venture capitalist yesterday investing $9m in bitcoin...
>>>
>>
>> can't stop laughing. ok, where is this 9 million. what is it doing? i
>> haven't seen any of it yet. they have all the resources, leigitimacy and
>> attention but what have they done. they are lost in the politics.
>>
>> we have donations from many, not 1 rich fascist. how will this 9 million
>> be used. the money from the community will go far, be collectively
>> managed in a multisig and be used well. we don't waste 9 million on
>> lawyers giving to people part of the state apparatus.
>>
>> why don't they go on record and back up their words?
>>
>> godspeed :) today we finally forced an important issue in bitcoin to the
>> forefront. this is where we will make our stand for freedom and our
>> values. great job cody for his mastermind work here.
>>
>>> The video is so fucken crazy. Thank God you’re a force for good.
>>>
>>> Another time and place you could work for the propaganda ministry of some
>>> Eastern Block country. :)
>>>
>>> Check this out also, it’s a balanced piece doing the rounds:
>>>
>>> http://techliberation.com/2013/10/31/bitcoin-is-going-mainstream-here-is-why-cypherpunks-shouldnt-worry/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 2:01 pm, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to thank everyone on this list especially for the tremendous
>>>> response the Dark Wallet campaign received yesterday. Within 24 hours we
>>>> received just over 25k USD in combined contributions. Share the video if
>>>> you haven't already. It seems to be popularizing the spirit of crypto.
>>>> There is demand!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> We're doing a crowd funding campaign for DarkWallet soon. I'm looking
>>>> for any material (especially from people here) that we can weave into
>>>> a tapestry of our vision and ideals.
>>>>
>>>> How we are thinking, what we are working towards, what interests us, ...
>>>>
>>>> Articles, videos, images, forum posts, ... anything. We want to
>>>> present something to the people
>>>>
>>>> * It's not only about the 'black market' but tools for the people, the
>>>> limitations and the monopoly of money / economy.
>>>> * Tools like DarkWallet are your own financial system, a free financial
>>>> system.
>>>> * It's important to talk about independence and community (organising
>>>> together).
>>>> * Everything from petrol, food, computers, even our health is
>>>> manipulated.
>>>> * Finance is one aspect, but we need to take back control of more
>>>> things.
>>>> * Silk Road: $1.2 billion market, 2 murders, >2 years. DPR is a hero.
>>>> Compare that with something like producing rice and all the people
>>>> that die.
>>>> * More simply:
>>>> ** Bitcoin = amazing scifi. The blockchain is incredible.
>>>> ** No technical limitations. The limitations are human limitations.
>>>> ** We will have all the tools, but we need the community.
>>>> * Bitcoin Foundation has a lot of money, all the legitimacy but they do
>>>> nothing. They are lost in the politics, but aren't thinking of serving
>>>> the people.
>>>> * We are here now working with the future in mind. These things take
>>>> time and are slow. Maybe 5 years from now all these crazy concepts
>>>> become reality.
>>>> ** Bitcoin is still young.
>>>> ** It's also about the internet.
>>>> ** Bitcoin is something new but immensely powerful.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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