I don't know there you're seeing trolling from me, Benjamin.

Aimee pointed toward disintermediation away from national currencies and
just using Bitcoin in commerce. I support that idea. What I responded to
was the idea that Amir should report anything to anyone about her
payment to him.

As for the fees you're talking about, I quite regularly put zero-fee
transactions onto the network, and they invariably get confirmed within
a few hours at worst. The disintermediation above eliminates the
exchange fees you mention.

Amir can then spend those Bitcoins toard other people directly, as Aimee
did toward him, or meet up with someone who exchanges Bitcoins for
national currencies to get some of the latter in order to pay for things
he needs from people who don't take Bitcoins.

So, yeah, reality. I'm all for it! But it seems in this case you might
have read something into what I was saying that isn't there.

Peace,
Mike

On 10/29/2013 08:05 PM, Benjamin Cordes wrote:
> No need to troll here. If you have experience using Bitcoin, which I
> assume you do if you float opinions, you pay a fee. First of all there
> is a tiny mining fee, which goes to professional miners. You can call
> them names the whole day, but they support the network. Then you have
> another fee which goes to exchanges. It is around 0.50% in the best
> case. Instead of paying 0.50% to a corporation located in Japan you
> could pay the same fee to a public source, which has a lock-in to
> support the network. So, sure, Bitcoin is very free in your mind, but
> if there is also this thing called reality. It's very interesting to
> me, that some who say Bitcoin is perfect are very quick to defend the
> same kind of structures they so decry. Rational thought requires
> weighing arguments.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Mike Gogulski <mike@???
> <mailto:mike@gogulski.com>> wrote:
>

>     On 10/29/2013 01:46 PM, aimee@???
>     <mailto:aimee@aimeemaree.com> wrote:
>     > I declare that I have paid Amir 500bitcoins which equates to 1500AU
>     > and he declares on his tax that he was paid 500 bitcoins which
>     > equates to 2000pound...

>

>     Or he doesn't declare "his" tax, and you don't declare your
>     payment, and
>     the bastards Amir mentioned toward whom all money flows get nothing.

>
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