I bet last week they would also have said zero chance of being an online
drug lord.

Sure the FBI entrapped him. But are his parents saying that entrapment
never happened and the chat/ message logs are faked?
On 4 Oct 2013 16:12, "Mike Gogulski" <mike@???> wrote:

> I spoke with his parents for two hours:
>
>
> https://www.rossulbricht.org/ross-ulbrichts-parents-say-zero-chance-of-murder-for-hire/
>
> On 10/04/2013 12:41 PM, Juraj Bednar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> The Maryland document clearly states it was an undercover FBI agent.
> >>
> > Yet it clearly says that the undercover agent arranged the delivery, but
> > the first person to suggest
> > torture and then execution was DPR. I still want to believe that that's
> > not the whole story, on the
> > other hand, it's a great PR move for influencing the jury.
> >
> > >From the state point of view, the FBI did their job and after they've
> > done it, DPR suggested violence.
> > (of course we view the acts of the FBI as violence, but that's not what
> > the general public believes
> > and it serves their narrative pretty well :(.
> >
> >> In most countries in the world, entrapment is thrown out of court. You
> >> cannot prosecute someone for a crime which the police entrap you into.
> > Yet there is nothing to suggest so. In Maryland document, there was even
> > no indication of threats
> > from the "victim" about releasing documents. DPR was pissed that they
> > stole some money and that
> > they could "sing".
> >
> > Sort-of prisoner's dilemma, but clearly no direct reaction to any
> > particular threat.
> >> They aren't basing their case on attempted murder. So what was the
> >> purpose of engineering this situation with DPR?
> > Influence of jury decision and public opinion of course.
> >> Go and research what DPR is like as a person. Watch his interview
> >> online where he is talking about true love and his hopes for the
> >> future of the world. Read some his writings.
> > His writings are writings of an idealist. We all read it and believed
> > that it says what we
> > think. There is always a difference between what someone writes and what
> > he or she
> > does. This is not to blame or to praise Ross as a person. DPR was and is
> > an act.
> > It may root from his beliefs, but he will be judged as a person based on
> > his actions,
> > not based on his beliefs.
> >
> > We can discuss if the trial is unbiased and serves justice and not only
> > the state. It will
> > almost certainly be biased on the state side, because the state sees
> > drug trade as
> > something bad and some people including me, most of the vendors and
> > customers
> > and himself see it otherwise.
> >
> > Ross was a real person and they are basing their
> > case on real person and his mistakes. They are winning the public
> > opinion part pretty
> > well. :(
> >> Interview with DPR (left): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fxHA-FEYg
> >>
> > This is an interview with Ross and I believe these are different
> > entities. We may discuss
> > if DPR or Ross was an act, but one of them was.
> >> By judging DPR, you are buying the picture that has been painted for
> >> you to slant the public discourse. Remove yourself from that game.
> >> This moral dilemma is false.
> > The dilemma is not false.
> >
> > But I agree we cannot judge DPR because we have no unbiased information
> > regarding the
> > case and we don't have any moral authority to judge him.
> >
> > Where are the victims? Let them speak or show that they are missing.
> > Otherwise, it's a witch-hunt.
> >
> >

> >    J.

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