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Autor: Mike Gogulski
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To: System undo crew
Alte Treads: Re: [unSYSTEM] Ulbricht info links - it was definitely FBI agents (court documents say so)
Betreff: [unSYSTEM] Ross Ulbricht’s parents say zero chance of murder-for-hire
I spoke with his parents for two hours:

https://www.rossulbricht.org/ross-ulbrichts-parents-say-zero-chance-of-murder-for-hire/

On 10/04/2013 12:41 PM, Juraj Bednar wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> The Maryland document clearly states it was an undercover FBI agent.
>>
> Yet it clearly says that the undercover agent arranged the delivery, but
> the first person to suggest
> torture and then execution was DPR. I still want to believe that that's
> not the whole story, on the
> other hand, it's a great PR move for influencing the jury.
>
> >From the state point of view, the FBI did their job and after they've
> done it, DPR suggested violence.
> (of course we view the acts of the FBI as violence, but that's not what
> the general public believes
> and it serves their narrative pretty well :(.
>
>> In most countries in the world, entrapment is thrown out of court. You
>> cannot prosecute someone for a crime which the police entrap you into.
> Yet there is nothing to suggest so. In Maryland document, there was even
> no indication of threats
> from the "victim" about releasing documents. DPR was pissed that they
> stole some money and that
> they could "sing".
>
> Sort-of prisoner's dilemma, but clearly no direct reaction to any
> particular threat.
>> They aren't basing their case on attempted murder. So what was the
>> purpose of engineering this situation with DPR?
> Influence of jury decision and public opinion of course.
>> Go and research what DPR is like as a person. Watch his interview
>> online where he is talking about true love and his hopes for the
>> future of the world. Read some his writings.
> His writings are writings of an idealist. We all read it and believed
> that it says what we
> think. There is always a difference between what someone writes and what
> he or she
> does. This is not to blame or to praise Ross as a person. DPR was and is
> an act.
> It may root from his beliefs, but he will be judged as a person based on
> his actions,
> not based on his beliefs.
>
> We can discuss if the trial is unbiased and serves justice and not only
> the state. It will
> almost certainly be biased on the state side, because the state sees
> drug trade as
> something bad and some people including me, most of the vendors and
> customers
> and himself see it otherwise.
>
> Ross was a real person and they are basing their
> case on real person and his mistakes. They are winning the public
> opinion part pretty
> well. :(
>> Interview with DPR (left): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fxHA-FEYg
>>
> This is an interview with Ross and I believe these are different
> entities. We may discuss
> if DPR or Ross was an act, but one of them was.
>> By judging DPR, you are buying the picture that has been painted for
>> you to slant the public discourse. Remove yourself from that game.
>> This moral dilemma is false.
> The dilemma is not false.
>
> But I agree we cannot judge DPR because we have no unbiased information
> regarding the
> case and we don't have any moral authority to judge him.
>
> Where are the victims? Let them speak or show that they are missing.
> Otherwise, it's a witch-hunt.
>
>
>    J.

>
>
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