I'm not surprised by the appeal to the norm of sanity. Before we are
tempted much more to despair by the prevailing ethical ideology, I
recommend this work by Mr. Badiou:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CDkQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aeogea.com%2Fpdf_library%2Fbooks%2F713303226_badiou-ethics-an-essay-on-the-understanding-of-evil.pdf&ei=t-FNUp7cE4Gm9ATN_oCIBw&usg=AFQjCNG6DTNkWvMPYraqMnvamrdis746Ag&bvm=bv.53537100,d.eWU
On Oct 3, 2013 4:27 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???> wrote:

> Isn't a situational ethics required here? There is the pre-existing evil
> of the organized violence of the state. A fixed moral imperative is here a
> tool that serves the master. Just like how 'Human Rights' is the motto du
> jour for organized bombing. Self-preservation almost demanded he act as he
> did, assuming he did.
>
> How is that a monstrous conclusion?
> Couldn't agree more Amir: we need to promote the values of respect for
> other people's lives. Where the FBI will seek to take his away for his
> mistakes, we cannot support his promotion just because he "stood for
> something good". He made the mistakes that proved his *lack* of values
> (assuming all evidence is accurate). The FBI, although a rotten snotball of
> power abusers, they didn't need to work on this one-- he handed it to them
> like a child molesting Catholic priest handing an anti-religion argument to
> an Athiest. We should all bow our heads in shame that we did not seek to
> out him sooner, befriend him, and be there for him when he was thinking
> murder was a solution. Additionally, we should seek to find more evidence,
> follow the trials, and continue to discuss-- but blindly follow a murderer
> because we don't like the FBI? Rationality unfortunately doesn't work like
> that. Let's pick our battles, shall we?
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> >> Utopian paradises are a fantasy. But right now I know who the biggest
>> murderer and threat to human freedom / expression on the earth is. And
>> it's not a small time mafia that was a threat to the big time mafias.
>>
>> These what if questions divert from focusing on what you're struggling
>> for. They're imaginary scenarios until they're actually possible.
>>
>> Also we need to move beyond promoting ideologies, and into promoting
>> values.
>>
>> On 03/10/13 23:07, jindq1 wrote:
>> > I am very skeptical of initiatives to keep things "anonymous", and
>> > given that bitcoin empowers people like never before to anonymous
>> > order hits on each other, it does beg to question: Who the fuck
>> > would want to live in a society where absolutely anyone with some
>> > money could kill anyone else, and anonymously, all without leaving
>> > their home PC? In a libertarian paradise, this guy would not only
>> > have killed someone, we never would have known about it. (Yes, I
>> > understand it was a trap by the FBI).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Apologists, know who your true oppressor is.
>> >
>> > We don't need to moralise that murder to protect thousands is OK,
>> > or that murder is wrong (like in superhero movies).
>> >
>> > The FBI entrapped him. By falling into this trap of condemning
>> > DPR, you are operating in the frame set by the FBI. You are
>> > allowing them to steer the argument.
>> >
>> > I stand with Ross Ulbricht.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nn6h8/dprs_accusations_of_murder_for_hire_only_reveal/
>> >
>> > On 03/10/13 22:15, jadair wrote:
>> >> I agree this thread is inappropriate for Lifeboat and for the
>> >> objectives of this group.
>> >
>> >> On Thursday, October 3, 2013 2:55:20 PM UTC-4, mike wrote:
>> >
>> >> Operated, for now, by me:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.rossulbricht.org/introducing-the-ross-ulbricht-legal-defense-fund/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > <
>> https://www.rossulbricht.org/introducing-the-ross-ulbricht-legal-defense-fund/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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