Hey, have you heard from Nefario? He tried to contact me recently but
I lost my inbox. I want to make sure he's OK. I'm worrying for him.

On 03/10/13 19:36, Mark Lamb wrote:
> Responding to Robert's comment: Ghandi was a mysoginist Martin
> Luther King Jr cheated on his wife several times with white women
> Satoshi has some probably really dark/screwed-up stuff in his past
> too that people would dig up if his identity was made known to the
> public
>
> Everyone has done terrible things, but the ideas are what last.
> I'd rather remember the DPR by the ideas he put forth, not by the
> terrible stuff.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Jason King
> <beinghomelessisnotacrime@???
> <mailto:beinghomelessisnotacrime@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I think we need to think very hard about the possibility of
> parallel construction before ruling out the government using
> extraordinary measur to shutter silk road.
>
> Jason
>
> On Oct 3, 2013 12:30 PM, "Robert Williamson" <bobalot@???
> <mailto:bobalot@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Vitalik here, I had the impression that DPR
> was a satoshi-like libertarian, who created something great and
> profited very well from it.
>
> Unfortunately he seems much darker than that, it's likely the two
> hits he called were people scamming him. But he also solicited
> undercover agents to torture and murder an "employee".
>
> Court docs here, if anyone wants a read. It seems they found him
> via intercepting an international with fake ids in and looking at
> forums posts and stackoverflow questions, so it looks like Tor
> still works... Maybe.
>
>
> http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On 3 October 2013 12:14, Jason King
> <beinghomelessisnotacrime@???
> <mailto:beinghomelessisnotacrime@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The reality is, we will probably never know the truth here. I would
> be extremely surprised if DPR is ever allowed to explain himself on
> any of this. And the very nature of how the Silk Road was run leads
> to far too much leeway on the governments part in getting to tell
> the narrative here.
>
> Look who is telling this story. And think of their credibility and
> hypocrisy.
>
> How many drone strikes were ordered just since yesterday?
>
> None of us are perfect. We are all an individual weaving of light
> and dark. We all have the capability to do horror and wonder. And
> very often we do both. But, there is a concept of innocent until
> PROVEN guilty.
>
> I think this is a community of people that want proof not
> hyperbole, no?
>
> Show it to me in the blockchain.
>
> Jason
>
> On Oct 3, 2013 5:51 AM, "Juraj Bednar" <juraj@???
> <mailto:juraj@bednar.sk>> wrote:
>
> "The consensus so far on the hit is that DPR was scammed. After
> the first dispute with FriendlyChemist, another user named
> redandwhite independently contacted DPR claiming that he was a
> vendor to whom FriendlyChemist owed money. After a bit of back and
> forth, he got $150,000 and DPR got a picture of a ?dead? victim.
> However, Canadian authorities say there are no similar homicides
> or disappearances that match the location and timeframe."
>
> This is clearly very easy to verify - was there or was there not a
> victim? It's a matter for a phonecall for FBI (they may as well
> have it in a fucking shared database). For investigation that was
> not cheap and an effort of lots of people, releasing the "murder"
> information would serve them pretty well, because of the public
> opinion.
>
> I don't say he is good or bad and I don't say he did or did not
> attempt to murder anyone, because I don't know. And that's the same
> for all of us on this list, I suppose.
>
> There's no need to make up our minds yet. The guy that was arrested
> is in custody, the silk road is not functioning and there's not
> much to do about it right now. I guess we can wait three months
> and then make up our minds. It's a much saner choice than to follow
> each and every bit of news (biased one way or another, working
> with speculation and information carefully released, filtered and
> probably manipulated by the FBI).
>
> Juraj.
>
>
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