I am not an anarcho-socialist, but this document is definitely worth to see :

http://youtu.be/I0XhRnJz8fU

caedes <caedes@???> wrote:
>El 27/06/13 21:10, Amir Taaki escribió:
>>
>> I want to simplify the political discourse. I believe it's been too
>> weighted down by dogmatism and complex visions tenuously drawn out
>> from unproven first principles. The truth is simpler. We don't need
>to
>> complicate what we know.
>
>+1000 :)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> They use the word "post-capitalist" lots, but it's misleading to read
>> into that too much. What many Bitcoiners imagine as capitalism is not
>> what most people conceptualise. The word is problematic and dividing.
>> We would probably term the concept as corporatism. It's not communist
>> or socialist to dislike corporations, and favour individuals and
>small
>> businesses.
>
>
>Yeah.. post capitalist is more poetic since everyone can see different
>meaning there. Also, note how its not Anti-capitalist, but "post",
>which
>in my view is very different. To me it just acknowledges the fact we
>actually already live in post-capitalist world (this is not the 90s any
>more), also that we dont work just by capitalist principles since time
>for money is not a basic unit of account in human relations.
>
>Anyways I'm with you if we're to produce simple explanations of reality
>we should quit using fuzzy terms like "capitalism". I'm not sure
>corporatism is all though. Consumism I think is a good one since it
>also
>puts the eye on the consumer, the person. (its curious how things
>became
>so anti-capitalist but so far from anti-consumist).
>
>And in the end, it's not just evil corporations selling us things we do
>not want and do not need, its also mislead ppl buying things they dont
>need, or mismanaging what they have. Actually, if we're to believe in
>"stateless economy" or "free market" then we better put the pressure on
>the consumer -the person- (its just ppl prefer to blame someone else).
>
>>
>> I see the role of an entrepreneur as a person looking into a
>community
>> or market, getting into the minds of those people and trying to
>> satisfy a need. The business is simply a vehicle for sustaining the
>> work. It isn't about trying to offer the minimal work for the maximum
>> pay scamming off everyone around you. It's about building
>> infrastructure, and supporting good people around you to improve the
>> lives of people. I like Bitcoin because it empowers this group of
>> people (artists, small business, any service).
>
>
>I see the entrepeneur similar, but I'm not so sure about the role of
>the
>business when its not based 100% on capitalist relationships gets fuzzy
>and I'd say we even need new ways to talk about that I'm continously
>getting into "logic errors" implementing business in the post
>capitalist
>world... lol... but its sure cheaper and way more sustainable in the
>end.
>
>Btw, we're soon accepting bitcoins more officially in calafou, and
>we're
>also doing some educative talks to integral cooperative about how it
>works (ppl know about it but there is a big lack of information). Some
>friends already are going to start accepting bitcoins for some products
>(marmelade) or services (tatoos) and we're likely expanding to more
>soon
>(bread, cheese, massages), so we'll see how it empowers this specific
>group of ppl (that are curious but wary of its relations to
>speculation).
>
>kisses!
>
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