Szerző: Paula Vélez Dátum: Címzett: Bricolabs Tárgy: Re: [Bricolabs] Information and Opinions [Brazil]
Obrigado!
Paula
2013/6/26 yto lab <yto.lab@???>
> Tank you Maira.
>
> Yto Aranda
>
> www.yto.cl > www.escaner.cl > www.cinetica.abierta.cl >
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Maira Begalli <ce0064@???> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/24 yto lab <yto.lab@???>
>>
>>> What about Belo Monte indigenous people? Do you think is it a hope for
>>> them?
>>>
>>>
>> nothing about Belo Monte, or impacts of oil exploration :/
>> nothing about socioenvironmental causes.
>>
>> https://t.co/mTGtWnPbYc >>
>> sad :/
>>
>>
>>> Yto Aranda
>>>
>>> www.yto.cl >>> www.escaner.cl >>> www.cinetica.abierta.cl >>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Gabriel Menotti <
>>> gabriel.menotti@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Andres (& bricos)!
>>>>
>>>> I've been having a really hard time understanding what's going on in
>>>> Brazil, particularly because I just got back to the country. But IMHO this
>>>> analysis seems very sensible and aware of the many complexities at play.
>>>> Portuguese only, unfortunately:
>>>>
>>>> http://diegoviana.opsblog.org/pauta-difusa-e-derrota-mais-uma-vez/ >>>>
>>>> Right now, the president has given a public declaration calling for a
>>>> plebiscite for political reform (not the best link):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/politica/noticias/dilma-chama-plebiscito-popular-para-reforma-politica >>>>
>>>> (all ptbr, sorry anglophones)
>>>>
>>>> Best!
>>>> Menotti
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/6/24 Andres Burbano <burbano@???>
>>>>
>>>>> Oi Felipe and Bricos,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for taking the time... It seems that things will be for a while
>>>>> a bit messy, unclear to to see and difficult understand, I know what were
>>>>> the initial demands (public transportation) but I am not sure about the new
>>>>> demands. What is the government position? it looks like the government
>>>>> offered a negotiations about public services... but is that the point?
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope the outcome will be in favor of social equity and cultural
>>>>> tolerance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obrigado
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Felipe Fonseca <
>>>>> felipefonseca@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oi Andres, all Bricos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can tell you that here in Brasil we're having a hard time wrapping
>>>>>> our heads around everything that is happening and their manifold
>>>>>> implications. Personally, I have the feeling that our expanded networks
>>>>>> were at first excited with the possibilities and the potential impact of
>>>>>> the demonstrations. Especially, it must be said, after some journalists
>>>>>> were beat by the police and the mainstream media stopped supporting the
>>>>>> police/state. But that comes with consequences: with media support, the
>>>>>> more socially-aware demands were gradually substituted for a more general
>>>>>> discourse about morality in politics, against political parties in general,
>>>>>> especially those wearing red flags and used to go to the streets. So in a
>>>>>> sense what could be seen as a movement demandind those which are historic
>>>>>> left-wing topics was appropriated by a supposedly (according to mainstrem
>>>>>> media) 'apolitical' series of protests. What followed were episodes of
>>>>>> right-wing, even some neonazi groups goingo to the streets, burning red
>>>>>> flags (in favour of green/yellow, 'national' ones), lots of senseless
>>>>>> violence taking place, etc. Some people were actually seeing parallels with
>>>>>> the march of the families with god for freedom that preceded the military
>>>>>> coupe d'etat in 1964...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too early to say we won, as people are still going to the streets.
>>>>>> Some are saying we ought to notice the inversion of demands, but should
>>>>>> persist and keep going to avoid letting the whole mobilization in the hands
>>>>>> of the wrong people. Demonstrations can offer good education on politics,
>>>>>> diversity and self-management (it worked for me).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> efe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21-06-2013 02:00, Andres Burbano wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Bricos,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like many people around the world I have been following with
>>>>>>> attention
>>>>>>> what is happening in Brazil these days. Because there is an important
>>>>>>> Brazilian participation in the list, I would like to ask you guys for
>>>>>>> some information and opinions on how to interpret the facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also I would like to receive recommendations of good sources of info
>>>>>>> (media) to follow the events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obrigado
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Andres Burbano
>>>>>>> PhD Media Arts and Technology | University of California Santa
>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>> Brico mailing list
>>>>>>> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net >>>>>>> Unsubscribe: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/**
>>>>>>> cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico<https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>> Brico mailing list
>>>>>> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net >>>>>> Unsubscribe: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/**
>>>>>> cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico<https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andres Burbano
>>>>> PhD Media Arts and Technology | University of California Santa Barbara
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Brico mailing list
>>>>> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net >>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico >>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Brico mailing list
>>>> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net >>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico >>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Brico mailing list
>>> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net >>> Unsubscribe:
>>> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico >>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ;)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Brico mailing list
>> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net >> Unsubscribe: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico >>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Brico mailing list
> Website on http://www.bricolabs.net > Unsubscribe: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brico >
::
Re: [Bricolabs] Information and Opi…
