On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Maira Begalli <ce0064@???> wrote:
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> 2013/6/24 yto lab <yto.lab@???>
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>> What about Belo Monte indigenous people? Do you think is it a hope for
>> them?
>>
>>
> nothing about Belo Monte, or impacts of oil exploration :/
> nothing about socioenvironmental causes.
>
> https://t.co/mTGtWnPbYc >
> sad :/
>
>
>> Yto Aranda
>>
>> www.yto.cl >> www.escaner.cl >> www.cinetica.abierta.cl >>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Gabriel Menotti <
>> gabriel.menotti@???> wrote:
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>>> Hey Andres (& bricos)!
>>>
>>> I've been having a really hard time understanding what's going on in
>>> Brazil, particularly because I just got back to the country. But IMHO this
>>> analysis seems very sensible and aware of the many complexities at play.
>>> Portuguese only, unfortunately:
>>>
>>> http://diegoviana.opsblog.org/pauta-difusa-e-derrota-mais-uma-vez/ >>>
>>> Right now, the president has given a public declaration calling for a
>>> plebiscite for political reform (not the best link):
>>>
>>>
>>> http://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/politica/noticias/dilma-chama-plebiscito-popular-para-reforma-politica >>>
>>> (all ptbr, sorry anglophones)
>>>
>>> Best!
>>> Menotti
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/6/24 Andres Burbano <burbano@???>
>>>
>>>> Oi Felipe and Bricos,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for taking the time... It seems that things will be for a while
>>>> a bit messy, unclear to to see and difficult understand, I know what were
>>>> the initial demands (public transportation) but I am not sure about the new
>>>> demands. What is the government position? it looks like the government
>>>> offered a negotiations about public services... but is that the point?
>>>>
>>>> I hope the outcome will be in favor of social equity and cultural
>>>> tolerance.
>>>>
>>>> Obrigado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Felipe Fonseca <
>>>> felipefonseca@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oi Andres, all Bricos
>>>>>
>>>>> I can tell you that here in Brasil we're having a hard time wrapping
>>>>> our heads around everything that is happening and their manifold
>>>>> implications. Personally, I have the feeling that our expanded networks
>>>>> were at first excited with the possibilities and the potential impact of
>>>>> the demonstrations. Especially, it must be said, after some journalists
>>>>> were beat by the police and the mainstream media stopped supporting the
>>>>> police/state. But that comes with consequences: with media support, the
>>>>> more socially-aware demands were gradually substituted for a more general
>>>>> discourse about morality in politics, against political parties in general,
>>>>> especially those wearing red flags and used to go to the streets. So in a
>>>>> sense what could be seen as a movement demandind those which are historic
>>>>> left-wing topics was appropriated by a supposedly (according to mainstrem
>>>>> media) 'apolitical' series of protests. What followed were episodes of
>>>>> right-wing, even some neonazi groups goingo to the streets, burning red
>>>>> flags (in favour of green/yellow, 'national' ones), lots of senseless
>>>>> violence taking place, etc. Some people were actually seeing parallels with
>>>>> the march of the families with god for freedom that preceded the military
>>>>> coupe d'etat in 1964...
>>>>>
>>>>> Too early to say we won, as people are still going to the streets.
>>>>> Some are saying we ought to notice the inversion of demands, but should
>>>>> persist and keep going to avoid letting the whole mobilization in the hands
>>>>> of the wrong people. Demonstrations can offer good education on politics,
>>>>> diversity and self-management (it worked for me).
>>>>>
>>>>> efe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21-06-2013 02:00, Andres Burbano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Bricos,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like many people around the world I have been following with attention
>>>>>> what is happening in Brazil these days. Because there is an important
>>>>>> Brazilian participation in the list, I would like to ask you guys for
>>>>>> some information and opinions on how to interpret the facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also I would like to receive recommendations of good sources of info
>>>>>> (media) to follow the events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obrigado
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andres Burbano
>>>>>> PhD Media Arts and Technology | University of California Santa Barbara
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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