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What about Belo Monte indigenous people? Do you think is it a hope for them?

Yto Aranda

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On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Gabriel Menotti
<gabriel.menotti@???>wrote:

> Hey Andres (& bricos)!
>
> I've been having a really hard time understanding what's going on in
> Brazil, particularly because I just got back to the country. But IMHO this
> analysis seems very sensible and aware of the many complexities at play.
> Portuguese only, unfortunately:
>
> http://diegoviana.opsblog.org/pauta-difusa-e-derrota-mais-uma-vez/
>
> Right now, the president has given a public declaration calling for a
> plebiscite for political reform (not the best link):
>
>
> http://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/politica/noticias/dilma-chama-plebiscito-popular-para-reforma-politica
>
> (all ptbr, sorry anglophones)
>
> Best!
> Menotti
>
>
> 2013/6/24 Andres Burbano <burbano@???>
>
>> Oi Felipe and Bricos,
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time... It seems that things will be for a while a
>> bit messy, unclear to to see and difficult understand, I know what were the
>> initial demands (public transportation) but I am not sure about the new
>> demands. What is the government position? it looks like the government
>> offered a negotiations about public services... but is that the point?
>>
>> I hope the outcome will be in favor of social equity and cultural
>> tolerance.
>>
>> Obrigado
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Felipe Fonseca <felipefonseca@???
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Oi Andres, all Bricos
>>>
>>> I can tell you that here in Brasil we're having a hard time wrapping our
>>> heads around everything that is happening and their manifold implications.
>>> Personally, I have the feeling that our expanded networks were at first
>>> excited with the possibilities and the potential impact of the
>>> demonstrations. Especially, it must be said, after some journalists were
>>> beat by the police and the mainstream media stopped supporting the
>>> police/state. But that comes with consequences: with media support, the
>>> more socially-aware demands were gradually substituted for a more general
>>> discourse about morality in politics, against political parties in general,
>>> especially those wearing red flags and used to go to the streets. So in a
>>> sense what could be seen as a movement demandind those which are historic
>>> left-wing topics was appropriated by a supposedly (according to mainstrem
>>> media) 'apolitical' series of protests. What followed were episodes of
>>> right-wing, even some neonazi groups goingo to the streets, burning red
>>> flags (in favour of green/yellow, 'national' ones), lots of senseless
>>> violence taking place, etc. Some people were actually seeing parallels with
>>> the march of the families with god for freedom that preceded the military
>>> coupe d'etat in 1964...
>>>
>>> Too early to say we won, as people are still going to the streets. Some
>>> are saying we ought to notice the inversion of demands, but should persist
>>> and keep going to avoid letting the whole mobilization in the hands of the
>>> wrong people. Demonstrations can offer good education on politics,
>>> diversity and self-management (it worked for me).
>>>
>>> efe
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21-06-2013 02:00, Andres Burbano wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Bricos,
>>>>
>>>> Like many people around the world I have been following with attention
>>>> what is happening in Brazil these days. Because there is an important
>>>> Brazilian participation in the list, I would like to ask you guys for
>>>> some information and opinions on how to interpret the facts.
>>>>
>>>> Also I would like to receive recommendations of good sources of info
>>>> (media) to follow the events.
>>>>
>>>> Obrigado
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andres Burbano
>>>> PhD Media Arts and Technology | University of California Santa Barbara
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Andres Burbano
>> PhD Media Arts and Technology | University of California Santa Barbara
>>
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